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Old 25 Jun 2014, 05:28 (Ref:3426152)   #26
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Presumably the investment by Mr Brabeck on an ongoing basis for operation, and the securing of a second REC had an end game in mind.

Penske seems to be the end game, if this article is to be taken at face value.

Waiting for an angel investor is not necessarily a sound, repeatable, solid business plan...
Not sound or solid - but in DJR's case it has been repeatable.
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Old 25 Jun 2014, 22:56 (Ref:3426481)   #27
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Maybe this could be a back up plan....
Given he is Chevy to his core, probably unlikely for him to hook up with a Ford team (at least while it remains a Ford team)
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Old 17 Jul 2014, 23:13 (Ref:3434986)   #28
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In other news, DJR and Mr Little have parted ways citing budget constraints, surrounding the potential Penske buy-out.
Story Here

It is a badly written article, which raises more questions than supplies answers. The gist of the story seems to be that there seems to be a budget issue at DJR on some level at the squad. There is likely little point in being chief technogumbie if the budget doesnt allow for new parts or thinking to be incorporated into the cars

Of interest from the Townsville round, one of the DJR cars had Payce Consolidated as title sponsor , and not Wilson Security.

Does one thing have something to do with the other?
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Old 17 Jul 2014, 23:26 (Ref:3434989)   #29
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I can't imagine writing off a car would've helped.
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Old 17 Jul 2014, 23:44 (Ref:3434993)   #30
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DJR Renaissance probably over.

Doesn't help really that David Wall is a peanut and Pye has largely done nothing since going there.

And... Is Campbell Little leaving for "budgetary" reasons the same as a manager leaving "to spend more time with his family"?
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Old 18 Jul 2014, 00:30 (Ref:3435000)   #31
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Does this mean a Penske purchase is off the table?? Is this plan B??
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Old 18 Jul 2014, 01:01 (Ref:3435007)   #32
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DJR Renaissance probably over.

Doesn't help really that David Wall is a peanut and Pye has largely done nothing since going there.

And... Is Campbell Little leaving for "budgetary" reasons the same as a manager leaving "to spend more time with his family"?
I think it's probably a pretty honest reason for leaving. Their financial issues are well-documented, although I'm a little surprised as I thought the Wilson money for this year would have covered the operating budget to get them through this year and the new investors would help Dick work out the long-term debt issues.

Although the written off car won't have helped, as has been posted previously if there's no money to pay for parts upgrades, is there a point paying someone like Campbell a significant salary.
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Of interest from the Townsville round, one of the DJR cars had Payce Consolidated as title sponsor , and not Wilson Security.

Does one thing have something to do with the other?


The 30th of June has been and gone... wonder if there is an impact there too?
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Business as usual- in debt, out of sponsors, looking for the next savior.
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Business as usual- in debt, out of sponsors, looking for the next savior.
And lost another championship winning engineer
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Old 21 Jul 2014, 07:25 (Ref:3436131)   #38
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Isn't he on the FPR payroll, though?
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Penske for 2015 - "Difficult"

Does difficult = dead?
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Seems like sponsorship is the issue.

Wilson, Payce, etc may not be sufficient (or perhaps no longer part of the team next year), for what Penske would like to achieve.
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DJR-Penske is On

...according to Mr Phelps.

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DJR-Penske is On

...according to Mr Phelps.

Who to believe?
Actually the acticle was written by Paul Gover..
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with ambrose

and Will power as an enduro co driver maybe
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DJR-Penske is On

...according to Mr Gover.

Who to believe?
Reading that made my eyes bleed. The ability to read and write English must not be a requirement to work as a journalist these days

I'm struggling to understand why Penske would need to buy into an existing team. It's not something that he's done before, or needed to do before. that is unless he can get DJR for less than what VESA want for 2 licences, which is quite possible.
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And comes after Cindric via V8SC says that the deal won't be done in July, but we are still interested. Mr Gover running late with his submission to the Editor and didn't have time to check the latest news...?
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describing djr as one of the most powerful names in world motorsport shows that the article was obviously written for the discerning reader.
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Well it gives the most ignorant of DJR fans something to crow about.
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Old 25 Jul 2014, 00:23 (Ref:3437526)   #48
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V8SC Plays The Waiting Game

The way this article is written, its almost like there isnt a lot of hope
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V8SC Plays The Waiting Game

The way this article is written, its almost like there isnt a lot of hope
I don't know if this item has been posted yet.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/motorsp...ck-johnson-rac
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Penske for 2015 - "Difficult"

Does difficult = dead?
Penske never does anything for free, so either manufacturer funding, B2B business deals or commercial sponsorship or a mix of all or some will be needed with full funding plus some, before he pulls the trigger.

He's not like Aunt Betty who spends a truckload of cash out of her pocket hoping to figure it out as they go along.
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