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No thanks -I'll have mine black and two sugars.
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Heres an interesting thought relating to McLaren (probably more fantasy tho...)
What if McLaren returned to Le Mans with an LMPEvo styled LMP1 car that was also their new P799/P12 project? They have said they want to win Le Mans outright with a car that resembles a road car, if the P11 were a kind of LMPEvo with a McLaren F1 style seating arrangement the greenhouse could be minimized enough to reduce its frontal area and with enough fancy aero could be a rather quick car, engine permitting. |
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It requires a purpose build LMP1 car to have a chance to win Le Mans outright. If a modified roadcar should be able to win Le Mans, it would need regulation changes. |
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I don't mean a road car adapted to a race car...I mean a LMP1 car that could then have a road going derivative made from it.
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But yes, a Porsche 962 -> Dauer 962 is possible, but still, making a road car that could go along the LMP1 is very unlikely. |
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The most you would get is some branding of the Prototype is some way (false grille, shape of lights etc) - which bearing in mind the shape of a McLaren it would be easer than with say a Mini.
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30 Jun 2011, 17:59 (Ref:2908786) | #1208 | ||
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Mercedes built a road going version of the CLK LM though. And a convertible as well... |
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They're actually designed to be two seaters....and it would be possible imo but yes rather expensive (even without the racing focused parts).
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The Guinness Book of World Records recorded the CLK GTR as the most expensive production car ever built at the time, with a price of $1,547,620(USD). lolol. so much for that.....Compare that to a bugatti veyron. so actually a LMP road car might not break your bank....atleast not much worse than a Veyron will lol.
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The P799/P12 is meant to be a low volume hypercar tho...
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30 Jun 2011, 18:52 (Ref:2908829) | #1213 | ||
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The McLaren P799/P12 project, its their planned 799hp hypercar....
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30 Jun 2011, 19:02 (Ref:2908838) | #1215 | ||
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Its under one of those 2 names, either P799 or P12 (following on from the MP4-12C which was called P11 in development).
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There are certain things in the regs (space requirements for a theoretical second "seat") but I don't think they're designed to be driven like this: http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ebSarrazin.jpg
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Isn't that called "proof of concept"?
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I heard something today and now I am confused. I asked John Dagys during his Speed chats about what Cytosport's plans for next year are and he seemed pretty sure that the grandfathered 2010 cars will still be legal next year in ACO races. That's not what I've heard before, but maybe he is right? What has everyone else heard? I asked him 2-3 times just to make sure, but he seemed pretty confident. That would be interesting. If so, I really hope the AMR-One gets scrapped so we can get a year or two more of the V12! Maybe Pescarolo can keep using the V10?
Also, Dagys seemed to indicate that non-cost-capped LMP2s won't be legal next year. Maybe I heard that before, but I'm not sure. I guess this could be the final season of the ARX-01s if that is true, but we'll see. It certainly would mean that the Lotus LMP2 coupe would have to be cost-capped. |
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The current rules explicitely state that non-cost-capped LMP2s are allowed for two more years:
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Interesting, but I guess a new Lotus LMP2 coupe would still have to be cost-capped since it would be homologated well past the date given.
Any explanations about when LMP1 grandfathering expires? |
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I agree! I think that was my initial question to Dagys. Something along the lines of "will the ALMS/IMSA extend the grandfathering of LMP1s..," but then he said that they will already be allowed next year in ACO racing. Or something like that. That surprised me! I don't know, that's why I am looking for some clarification because that changes a lot in regard to AMR and Pescarolo. Of course, it would be great for Autocon, Muscle Milk, Intersport, etc.
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An interesting rumour on http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsjuly11.html
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I think that is a pretty interesting proposal. Ok, it would be best if there were no restrictions at all, but this might be the best solution if there has to be some sort of restriction in place.
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I have thought for sometime that the best way is to specify the amount of energy that can be put in the car with certain safety guidlines. Leave the rest to the designers and you will see real innovation. Energy generated by the car whilst on track should be free.
I am sure the techies will shoot this down but what do you think? |
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