Future Grands Prix? - Page 88

Mike Bell · 23 Nov 2019, 11:30 (Ref:3942316)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Zandvoort has said the banking at the final corner will be like an American oval and is set to be twice as steep as the turns at Indianapolis. The banking at IMS is 9.2°.

Yes, I read that. Is it the corner named ‘Arie Luyendijk bocht’?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 23 Nov 2019, 18:20 (Ref:3942391)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Yes, I read that. Is it the corner named ‘Arie Luyendijk bocht’?

It should be, after all he won the 500 twice and he holds the lap record, which he set in 1996, 37.895 sec (237.498 mph; 382.182 km/h).

sizzle · 26 Nov 2019, 02:22 (Ref:3942854)

Are Michelin making special tyres

**bjohnsonsmith** · 26 Nov 2019, 12:45 (Ref:3942935)

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Originally Posted by sizzle

Are Michelin making special tyres

No special tyres from Pirelli.

https://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/147355

Richard C · 26 Nov 2019, 14:18 (Ref:3942959)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Zandvoort has said the banking at the final corner will be like an American oval and is set to be twice as steep as the turns at Indianapolis. The banking at IMS is 9.2°.

I am unfamiliar with the Zandvoort circuit, but I assume suspension compression should not be a concern? I am guessing the largest amount of compression they see currently is at Eau Rouge just as you climb to Raidillon?

Richard

sizzle · 27 Nov 2019, 01:58 (Ref:3943098)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

No special tyres from Pirelli.

https://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/147355

I can already hear the whinging about the tyre pressures around the remainder of the lap!

wnut · 29 Nov 2019, 08:49 (Ref:3943583)

Have they started paving over Zandvoort's sand/gravel traps yet?
Few negative camber corners too.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 29 Nov 2019, 13:31 (Ref:3943652)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Have they started paving over Zandvoort's sand/gravel traps yet?
Few negative camber corners too.

Here's aerial shot of the track, taken from above Scheivlak and the run of areas look like sand.

S griffin · 29 Nov 2019, 13:46 (Ref:3943657)

The last thing we need is more arguments about track limits

wnut · 1 Dec 2019, 00:30 (Ref:3943928)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Here's aerial shot of the track, taken from above Scheivlak and the run of areas look like sand.

Really nice photo BJ.

I was Hoping that Mr Tilke and asphalt monkey ltd don't get a chance to ruin yet another circuit, they were also very anti reverse camber corners.

Have to wonder why the barrier is reflexed on the entry to Scheivlak, it would have been more logical to just keep it going straight through.

**chunterer** · 2 Dec 2019, 09:17 (Ref:3944187)

This looks like a pic of the current circuit pre alterations?

wnut · 2 Dec 2019, 10:52 (Ref:3944210)

I found this web site belonging to KWS the company undertaking the works before the GP.

https://www.kws.nl/nl/nieuws/detail/...-volkerwessels

From the pictures it seems that the tar runoff is restricted to the end of the main straight. They will also be reconstructing the pits, a new medical centre, the paddock, widening sections of the circuit and some pedestrian underpasses.
On the whole they seem to be sticking with the gravel sand runoffs - which is a very good idea in my opinion.

Coach Ep · 2 Dec 2019, 19:01 (Ref:3944356)

seems they did a media day very recently, plenty of pics available:

https://www.racexpress.nl/index.php?...mGC2uod-6YhYi8

https://www.gptoday.net/nl/fotos/f/5...c17e02c68b.jpg

Plenty of stuff going on!

wnut · 7 Dec 2019, 22:57 (Ref:3945445)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

seems they did a media day very recently, plenty of pics available:

https://www.racexpress.nl/index.php?...mGC2uod-6YhYi8

https://www.gptoday.net/nl/fotos/f/5...c17e02c68b.jpg

Plenty of stuff going on!

Thank you Coach Ep great pics, particularly the second set.

steve nielsen · 21 Dec 2019, 10:44 (Ref:3947866)

some drone footage of the current situation at Zandvoort

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWJ_dcJcJ58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwVGA_IP4o

Dutch chap · 3 Jan 2020, 12:17 (Ref:3949665)

And as it is today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

**bjohnsonsmith** · 3 Jan 2020, 12:20 (Ref:3949666)

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Originally Posted by Dutch chap

And as it is today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

Looking forward to race day.

wnut · 3 Jan 2020, 23:27 (Ref:3949738)

The circuit looks really good, one of the more exciting in the championship, setting up a car should be a good challenge.
It is going to be interesting to see how the Pirelli tyres stand up to the banking in turn 3 and the final corner, 18 degrees is a pretty steep bank for an F1 and should lead to very heavy loadings on the tyres.

Looks like they are keeping the gravel traps too.

**chunterer** · 4 Jan 2020, 07:48 (Ref:3949771)

Track length looks reasonable too? Has it been extended slightly or is that just the aerial impression?

Mike Bell · 4 Jan 2020, 08:10 (Ref:3949772)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

Track length looks reasonable too? Has it been extended slightly or is that just the aerial impression?

I wondered that but think it’s an illusion? I’ve only raced there once but looks familiar.

It’s good to see money being spent on new infield / paddock access tunnels. Just hope they don’t flood if it rains heavily! Just think, one pedestrian tunnel at Silverstone was all that was needed when they spent that money on the new layout and Wing.....

steve nielsen · 4 Jan 2020, 16:50 (Ref:3949823)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I wondered that but think it’s an illusion? I’ve only raced there once but looks familiar.

It’s good to see money being spent on new infield / paddock access tunnels. Just hope they don’t flood if it rains heavily! Just think, one pedestrian tunnel at Silverstone was all that was needed when they spent that money on the new layout and Wing.....

the infield paddock in Zandvoort is not that big so they need to use some space on the outside of the track,so they can het all the support classes(F2,F3,Porsche cup) a place to setup. Also the track was always very narrow, F3 cars always struggled to overtake there.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 4 Jan 2020, 19:13 (Ref:3949840)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

I wondered that but think it’s an illusion? I’ve only raced there once but looks familiar.

It’s good to see money being spent on new infield / paddock access tunnels. Just hope they don’t flood if it rains heavily! Just think, one pedestrian tunnel at Silverstone was all that was needed when they spent that money on the new layout and Wing.....

My thought on seeing the new access, was more of the bumps over the tunnels that might form, as the sand base under and the top fill over the tunnel sections settle.

**Peter Mallett** · 4 Jan 2020, 20:59 (Ref:3949845)

Piling. They would have either piled it or used something called vibroflotation.

Mike Bell · 5 Jan 2020, 06:13 (Ref:3949876)

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve nielsen

the infield paddock in Zandvoort is not that big so they need to use some space on the outside of the track,so they can het all the support classes(F2,F3,Porsche cup) a place to setup.

Tell me about it! Will be interesting to find out what the support vehicle access tunnel clearance height(s) are. The area is well known for low bridge heights, which has meant access for some trucks in the past needed careful planning.

chillibowl · 10 Jan 2020, 16:15 (Ref:3950866)

saw this pic on reddit the other day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...ion_estimated/

i thought Vietnam was supposed to be a street curcuit but this looks purpose built no? street roads being converted to a proper permanent race track? more likely i was just got it wrong that it was supposed to be a street circuit?

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