WEC 2015 WEC Discussion - Page 52

Coach Ep · 20 Apr 2015, 21:35 (Ref:3529480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artur

Never heard the expression "13 in a dozen" before, btw

Works best with eggs!

TheMightyM · 20 Apr 2015, 23:52 (Ref:3529510)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I'm not sure if you've been there, so I don't mean to sound patronising, b[u]t there is more gradient in 50 metres of the Nurburgring GP track than those other three combined.

It's not 'the Nurburgring' and it's by no means the most amazing course, especially since they put in that stupid sequence at the beginning of the lap instead of the nice, fast cambered chicane that was there before, but it often produces good racing, it has a few sections that will punish mistakes and it has a beautiful Black Forest backdrop

So, although it's not a perfect solution, it could be much worse (remembering rumours of India and Korea).

Black Forest? Absolutely not, unless you’re going to call any and all forested portions of Germany to be “Black Forest.” The Nürburgring is actually located in a very different part of Germany called the Eifel.

Coach Ep · 21 Apr 2015, 02:09 (Ref:3529543)

I forgot to mention the castle as one of the attractions of the area: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nürburg_Castle

Never been there, hopefully I get the chance to make up for it some day in the future.

chernaudi · 21 Apr 2015, 06:00 (Ref:3529570)

And it should be noted that the Nurburgring/Eifel forest isn't too far away from the Dutch/Belgian Ardennes, which of course means that the Nurburgring isn't that far away from Spa.

The two tracks can't be much more different in character, though, comparing GP circuit to GP circuit--Nurburgring GP being a lot more compact in nature than Spa.

Rodger Davies · 21 Apr 2015, 07:20 (Ref:3529598)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMightyM

Black Forest? Absolutely not, unless you’re going to call any and all forested portions of Germany to be “Black Forest.” The Nürburgring is actually located in a very different part of Germany called the Eifel.

Oops, yes, 'in the Eifel Mountains' it should be. Sorry, brain was switched well and truly off. Still, doesn't take away from the fact it's in a beautiful area with stunning panoramas.

Coach Ep · 21 Apr 2015, 11:42 (Ref:3529653)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

And it should be noted that the Nurburgring/Eifel forest isn't too far away from the Dutch/Belgian Ardennes, which of course means that the Nurburgring isn't that far away from Spa.

The two tracks can't be much more different in character, though, comparing GP circuit to GP circuit--Nurburgring GP being a lot more compact in nature than Spa.

You're mistaken that for a high bridge!

chernaudi · 23 Apr 2015, 18:04 (Ref:3530298)

Surprised that there's not a Spa race weekend thread yet, seeing as how it's only a bit more than week away.

I already checked the weather forecast--a losing bet this far out if anything--but on both days, there's calling for a mix of sun and clouds, a slight chance of rain on Friday, and both days it won't even break 50F.

YorkshireLad · 23 Apr 2015, 18:08 (Ref:3530300)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

Surprised that there's not a Spa race weekend thread yet, seeing as how it's only a bit more than week away.

I already checked the weather forecast--a losing bet this far out if anything--but on both days, there's calling for a mix of sun and clouds, a slight chance of rain on Friday, and both days it won't even break 50F.

I've checked everyday on 4 websites, plus my iPhone and everyday it's changed. Snow on Friday it said this morning -uhoh-

Hopefully it will change for the better.

isynge · 23 Apr 2015, 18:44 (Ref:3530306)

The only sure thing is that there will be weather at Spa.

This time last year the forecast had it barely making it above freezing, it was filthy on Friday (to the extent I watched qualifying in a pub in Spa rather than braving the track), and then despite worst fears conditions on Saturday couldn't be described as anything other than glorious.

Pack for every eventuality and you'll be okay, doesn't help those pondering setup choices much though...

YorkshireLad · 23 Apr 2015, 18:52 (Ref:3530307)

Really off topic but I've just seen a picture of the green gt h2 anyone know what came of it?

Gingers4Justice · 24 Apr 2015, 11:04 (Ref:3530435)

The first 52 minute highlight package of the season dropped two days ago. It's a jump in quality from before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UVCLyF8CwI

I'm still not sold on those corny finger-pointing montages from the drivers trying to look like they're promoting a bout or something, but Louise Beckett comes across well. Also, gone is that Matt Berry sound-alike narrator in favour of narration from Louise before and after and commentary from Hindy in between.

It's still not perfect, but it's no longer embarrassing and I think I'll end up watching these as a recap throughout the season.

Ginaro Zukovsky · 24 Apr 2015, 11:31 (Ref:3530443)

It's not hard to be better than previous highlights

but just 24 minutes of time devoted to the actual racing is disappointing. Far too much footage that they've obviously thought "we've gone to all this trouble filming these off-track pieces, we have to include it in the highlights".

Louise does a piece to camera before the track walk - why can't she start the highlights with that, then go over the entry list. Maybe an onboard lap with a driver commentating, pit of paddock/pit walk, show the grid and get on with the racing. Imagine sitting down and watching this at home - 22 mins + adverts into these highlights and you've not even see the start of the race yet!

Victor_RO · 27 Apr 2015, 12:23 (Ref:3531155)

First photos of the Ligier JS P2 in Patron livery: http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/les...a-magny-cours/

**joeb** · 27 Apr 2015, 13:08 (Ref:3531168)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

First photos of the Ligier JS P2 in Patron livery: http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/les...a-magny-cours/

That works for me!

GT6 · 27 Apr 2015, 13:57 (Ref:3531184)

Yes looks very similar scheme to the old p2 car but still very nice compared to some of the other cars

Coach Ep · 27 Apr 2015, 15:55 (Ref:3531198)

Kairos expanding it's collaboration with Greaves for ELMS and Le Mans (and possibly Petit Le Mans). I wouldn't be surprised to see them (Greaves) coming back to the WEC as well - after Le Mans for a one or two off perhaps but I sure hope Jacob & Tim and all are being really careful and cautious after what happened with Morand/SARD earlier year (+ Millennium and ADR/Delta last year).

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/v...urance-racing/

Deleted · 27 Apr 2015, 16:16 (Ref:3531205)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

First photos of the Ligier JS P2 in Patron livery: http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/les...a-magny-cours/

Looks alright, but when I put it next to the 04...

Simmi · 27 Apr 2015, 19:20 (Ref:3531267)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Kairos expanding it's collaboration with Greaves for ELMS and Le Mans (and possibly Petit Le Mans). I wouldn't be surprised to see them (Greaves) coming back to the WEC as well - after Le Mans for a one or two off perhaps but I sure hope Jacob & Tim and all are being really careful and cautious after what happened with Morand/SARD earlier year (+ Millennium and ADR/Delta last year).

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/v...urance-racing/

If Kairos want to spend money in sportscar racing that's great. I just hope that Greaves retain control of Greaves. A bit like when Rebellion suddenly got all that Lotus branding. They were able to emerge from it without issue and didn't sell their soul.

Damian Baldi · 27 Apr 2015, 19:58 (Ref:3531277)

It's good to have two Ligiers with Honda engines.

Deleted · 27 Apr 2015, 20:10 (Ref:3531280)

It's interesting how the marketing works as well as in the Europe those Oak Coupes are listed as 'Ligier HPD', in the US they are first referred as 'Honda Ligier'

Damian Baldi · 27 Apr 2015, 20:56 (Ref:3531298)

The good thing about those engines, is that are v6 turbo instead normally aspirated v8s Nissan or Judd. At least for me, it makes it more interesting in long races. I will like to see these engines racing against Chevy and the Ecoboost in North America.

Deleted · 29 Apr 2015, 19:01 (Ref:3531904)

F1 is delaying the start of the season until the beginning of April next season. I believe if the ACO moved up the WEC(/ELMS) season opener till end of March you could potentially generate larger viewing audience when the bigger masses are still waiting for the big circus to start and there's not much else going on in the circuit racing anyways.

The potential issues with this - and my counter arguments against them

Unpredictable Silverstone weather even earlier than now?
A) Would like two weeks earlier spot be the difference between horrible conditions and pleasant? Let's not fool ourselves, even the early April date can be rather wintery.
B) Opener doesn't have to be Silverstone by law

It would create bigger gap between WEC round 1 and round 2.
A) So what, there are 3 month gaps and other breaks elsewhere in the calendar...
B) There could be 3 pre-LM races no? There sure was in 2008 LMS!

Teams seem to have issues gearing up to even early April, how does even earlier start help?
A) We used to have Sebring in the past. So let's not get too comfortable.
B) The end of the season could be brought tightened to earlier end to make the winter break longer as well as to help the inconsistent pacing of calendar's second half

I thought we weren't supposed to make too many sportscars vs F1 arguments again...
Organizing your racing not to conflict with F1 calendar, or attempting to increase the likelihood of people watching your championship in general isn't trying to compare the two, but rather to try to increase the max interest towards the product. Just as the ACO has outlawed F1 from having GP the same week as Le Mans.

TF110 · 29 Apr 2015, 19:06 (Ref:3531905)

Did you just conduct your own Q&A session?

Maybe they can start the wec with a race at Ricard? If not maybe somewhere in Spain?

Deleted · 29 Apr 2015, 19:08 (Ref:3531908)

Yeah l love arguing with myself

I just wanted to make those points clear before someone said them.

Plenty of Southern Europe places. Or, you know, Kyalami

Coach Ep · 29 Apr 2015, 19:12 (Ref:3531910)

Bahrain or Abu Dhabi.

Woohoo...

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
IMSA USCC in 2016 and 2017	Bob Riebe	North American Racing	5472	29 Sep 2017 11:27
2015 Silly Season	GTRMagic	Australasian Touring Cars.	2559	20 Jun 2016 03:31
2015 IndyCar schedule	NaBUru38	Indycar Series	330	19 Jun 2015 12:11
2015 Dakar Rally	NaBUru38	Rallying & Rallycross	16	28 Jul 2014 14:47
Melbourne has contract to 2015 (?)	Marbot	Formula One	23	18 Jun 2008 13:09