Holden Young Lions

JackBlahBlah · 11 Jan 2009, 00:35 (Ref:2369124)

is it going to happen again??

Pro Racer · 11 Jan 2009, 06:11 (Ref:2369180)

we know a replacement for HSVDT will be formed but it's the name that isn't known, HYL is possible so is keeping the HSVDT name, Walkinshaw Racing could be another.

Razor · 11 Jan 2009, 06:59 (Ref:2369188)

Me thinks it will still run under the name HSV Dealer Team. Mr Dumbrell may not like being called a "Young Lion"

**GTRMagic** · 11 Jan 2009, 07:07 (Ref:2369190)

http://www.holdenyounglions.com/

SJA · 11 Jan 2009, 08:56 (Ref:2369213)

This is speculation based on logic, but here are my thoughts...

Licence #50 will be re-branded #222 and become part of a three car HRT effort and will be fielded by Paul Dumbrell with Autobarn backing.

I base this theory on if #222 was available PCR would have picked it up for Patrizi, but they haven't, they picked up #333, which suggests to me Walky's already got it #222! Thus HRT will be a legitimate 3-car team, #2 and #22 with Toll and #222 with Autobarn.

It's all but confirmed that Walky has also picked up the dormant #24 licence, and my guess is this will be a 1-car satelite HRT operation and will probably go under the name of Holden Young Lions with the likely driver/sponsor combo of David Reynolds/Bundaberg rum (if you believe the rumours). Likey number for this entry?? I'm gonna say #09, as each time a Young Lions entry has been owned by Walkinshaw (and not the Romano's or Faulkner etc.) he has gone with the year (eg R Kelly #02 in 2002 etc).

There are of course a truck load of other things walky may do with these two licences... Such as keeping HSVDT as is and just simply replacing the two licneces the Kellys took with the two new ones he has and replacing R Kelly with Reynolds, who knows??..

Falcadore · 11 Jan 2009, 08:59 (Ref:2369215)

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Originally Posted by Razor

Me thinks it will still run under the name HSV Dealer Team. Mr Dumbrell may not like being called a "Young Lion"

That assumes Dumbrell runs. The specialist press this week has him contemplating retirement.

GTR: love the nostalgia trip, 2004 John Faulkner Racing, those were the days...

Falcadore · 11 Jan 2009, 09:01 (Ref:2369216)

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Originally Posted by SJA

This is speculation based on logic, but here are my thoughts...

Licence #50 will be re-branded #222 and become part of a three car HRT effort and will be fielded by Paul Dumbrell with Autobarn backing.

I base this theory on if #222 was available PCR would have picked it up for Patrizi, but they haven't, they picked up #333, which suggests to me Walky's already got it #222! Thus HRT will be a legitimate 3-car team, #2 and #22 with Toll and #222 with Autobarn.

Cruickshank has been quoted that #222 was available, they just liked the sound of #333 when compared. Sorry to rain on the parade.

**GTRMagic** · 11 Jan 2009, 09:05 (Ref:2369219)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Cruickshank has been quoted that #222 was available, they just liked the sound of #333 when compared. Sorry to rain on the parade.

I thought PCR may have just liked the mustard pickles...

SJA · 11 Jan 2009, 09:12 (Ref:2369223)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

Cruickshank has been quoted that #222 was available, they just liked the sound of #333 when compared. Sorry to rain on the parade.

Hmmm, Tom to Paul - "Hey don't take #222, we need that one, I just haven't got round to it yet. You'll only run Patrizi a maximum of one year anyway so what do you care what number he runs with, I'll tell ya Paul if you take #222 I'l sue you, take your team out from under you, frame you for tax fraud or something."

Paul to Tom - "Oh for christs sake just shut up will you! I dont care, take your freaking number you loser!"

Falcadore · 11 Jan 2009, 09:20 (Ref:2369225)

That could be what happened but if as has been suggested in MeN that Walkinshaw has acquired the Walden franchise, wouldn't it make more sense to have the Autobarn car have a number match with Reynolds' car and have two sets of two cars and set up an identity for each pair - like HRT/HSV? Rather than three HRT cars and one leftover for Reynolds.

Or do you think Reynolds will run #2222?

**GTRMagic** · 11 Jan 2009, 09:27 (Ref:2369227)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

That could be what happened but if as has been suggested in MeN that Walkinshaw has acquired the Walden franchise, wouldn't it make more sense to have the Autobarn car have a number match with Reynolds' car and have two sets of two cars and set up an identity for each pair - like HRT/HSV? Rather than three HRT cars and one leftover for Reynolds.

Or do you think Reynolds will run #2222?

The Bathurst scoreboard will be interesting in that scenario... #22, #222, #2222 all appearing as "22"...

PCR also have that problem as #333 against GRM's #33... and #111 against Perkins' #11

SJA · 11 Jan 2009, 09:42 (Ref:2369233)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

That could be what happened but if as has been suggested in MeN that Walkinshaw has acquired the Walden franchise, wouldn't it make more sense to have the Autobarn car have a number match with Reynolds' car and have two sets of two cars and set up an identity for each pair - like HRT/HSV? Rather than three HRT cars and one leftover for Reynolds.

Or do you think Reynolds will run #2222?

Believe it or not I actually agree with you, running 2x HRT and 2x HSV/HYL would make alot more sence, but I was just going with my gut before, and it was the number scenario that prompted my way of thinking.

Anyway, this all might be moot point is Dumbers pulls out anyway hey? Then what's Walky gonna do? There has been no confirmation that the Bundy sponsorship is true, so he's gonna have two licences, 1 rookie driver and seemingly no (major) sponsors...

Falcadore · 11 Jan 2009, 09:47 (Ref:2369237)

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Originally Posted by SJA

Anyway, this all might be moot point is Dumbers pulls out anyway hey? Then what's Walky gonna do? There has been no confirmation that the Bundy sponsorship is true, so he's gonna have two licences, 1 rookie driver and seemingly no (major) sponsors...

and fines to pay if they don't run four cars.

SJA · 11 Jan 2009, 09:47 (Ref:2369238)

BTW if Walky keeps the HSVDT branding for these two cars he'll try and get #15 and #16 back from the Kellys (if the Kellys wanna give them to him and if they can find suitable replacements (#8 and #10) to keep brand continuity, the av punter associate HSVDT with #15 and #16.

If not I think he'll use #20 and #21 - kind of fits well with HRT's #2 and #22, and both are availible, I think...

SJA · 11 Jan 2009, 09:51 (Ref:2369242)

...and BJR are rumoured to be getting #8 to replace #14, so who really knows?..

HRT, 2, 22
HSVDT, 15, 16
KRT, 7, 11, 10, 14
BJR, 8, 12

it's all up in the air...

Falcadore · 11 Jan 2009, 09:55 (Ref:2369248)

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Originally Posted by SJA

BTW if Walky keeps the HSVDT branding for these two cars he'll try and get #15 and #16 back from the Kellys (if the Kellys wanna give them to him and if they can find suitable replacements (#8 and #10) to keep brand continuity, the av punter associate HSVDT with #15 and #16.

Kelly to Tom: How much are you willing to pay for it? My good good buddy who took such good care of my team in 2008.

Holly Wood · 11 Jan 2009, 21:23 (Ref:2369602)

It's a shame PCR didn't get #666 for Patrizi, it would have gone with his reputation just nicely...!

Belly13 · 12 Jan 2009, 00:58 (Ref:2369684)

I don't get why people have digs at Patrizi all the time. What has he done that has influenced people to not like him?

Axeman444 · 12 Jan 2009, 01:41 (Ref:2369697)

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Originally Posted by Belly13

I don't get why people have digs at Patrizi all the time. What has he done that has influenced people to not like him?

apart from this?

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111798

LOWNDES 888 · 12 Jan 2009, 02:02 (Ref:2369700)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The Bathurst scoreboard will be interesting in that scenario... #22, #222, #2222 all appearing as "22"...

PCR also have that problem as #333 against GRM's #33... and #111 against Perkins' #11

same could be said for #88 & #888 :-P

Pro Racer · 12 Jan 2009, 02:25 (Ref:2369703)

i just hope we don't end up with too many triple numbered cars.

Falcadore · 12 Jan 2009, 03:33 (Ref:2369718)

Compared to Team Kiwi (#021, #777), Holden Racing Team (#015, #016, #255), Pack Leader (#201, #301), the old Advanatage Racing formerly known as Holden Dealer Team (#105), MoPro (#110), MSport (#111), Brad Jones Racing (#888), Prancing Horse Racing (#888), ANT Racing (#300), Speed FX Racing (#777), Nichols Motorsport (#666), Briggs Motor Sport (#600), Independent Race Cars Australia (#500), Power Racing (#134, #500), Garry Rogers Motorsport (#134, #427), Team Dynamik (#168, #328), Halliday Motor Sport (#161), RPM International Racing (#145), Greg Crick Motorsport (#149), Clive Wiseman Racing (#150), Clyde Lawrence Racing (#140), Riverlea Motorsport (#127), Terry Wyhoon Racing [now Image Racing] (#125) and Mark Petch Motorsport (#100), I think that ship has well and truly sailed.

**GTRMagic** · 12 Jan 2009, 03:41 (Ref:2369720)

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Originally Posted by LOWNDES 888

same could be said for #88 & #888 :-P

No problems with that team's numbers in '09

Pro Racer · 12 Jan 2009, 03:57 (Ref:2369721)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

No problems with that team's numbers in '09

i would like to know if CL had won the championship would Jamie keep #88 or switch to #888 with CL carrying #1?

**GTRMagic** · 12 Jan 2009, 04:06 (Ref:2369722)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

i would like to know if CL had won the championship would Jamie keep #88 or switch to #888 with CL carrying #1?

We will never know....

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