[iV8SC11-R03&04] Clipsal 500 Adelaide 17-20 March - Page 5

Tourer · 20 Mar 2011, 09:31 (Ref:2849938)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

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Good drive by Mr Whincup.. good work by Team BOC to get the #8 back out there, it was fairly stuffed..

was a good job by BJR to get the car back out but prob not to get him to cut an extra lap with fairly extensive damage just so they could get the garage ready (according to the telecast).

bluesport · 20 Mar 2011, 09:43 (Ref:2849944)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Third.

Will he beat Jamie?

fomoco · 20 Mar 2011, 09:44 (Ref:2849946)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

I was watching on 7digital & I saw Podium (incl bubbles spraying)

wich state Nick, Better Homes and Gardens or the Great South east?

I was watching, and yes , thanks for watching , see you in Hamilton.

St00ge · 20 Mar 2011, 14:22 (Ref:2850051)

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Originally Posted by MCWB

Or you could, say, start 5 or 10 minutes earlier? I mean I know that's pretty revolutionary stuff, but still...

narr **** that there isn't a compelling reason why the need to start earlier or can't even finish later, **** me nascar (which v8s like to follow by their example) are happy to run as late as it takes to finish the race if physically possible ie they will turn on the lights to finish in the dark if need be... I under stand you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere but within 3 % of the race distance which is like under 5 minuets effectively I think they can allow for that kinda contingency, well I would ****ing hope so as they shouldn't be working to the minuet. As mentioned above cut the ****ing fluff after the program if your short...........

Aarrgh8 · 20 Mar 2011, 21:38 (Ref:2850251)

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Originally Posted by stmookeyj033

Think it may be similar to Abu Dhabi. Race 1 a borefest, Race 2 a crash fest with a tight finish. Think that it will be a T8 benefit too BUT I expect HRT to go well here as usual and also will pick a Kelly brother as the dark horse.

Hey, not bad!

Got next week's lotto numbers?

**GTRMagic** · 20 Mar 2011, 21:43 (Ref:2850254)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

was a good job by BJR to get the car back out but prob not to get him to cut an extra lap with fairly extensive damage just so they could get the garage ready (according to the telecast).

How did #8 get around for that lap when the driver claims on twitter that the passenger rear was flat, and caused the accident?

**GTRMagic** · 20 Mar 2011, 22:13 (Ref:2850273)

Twilight Race for 2012?

ForumNick · 20 Mar 2011, 22:33 (Ref:2850287)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

I was watching on 7digital & I saw Podium (incl bubbles spraying)

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Originally Posted by fomoco

wich state Nick,

NSW (Sydney)

**GTRMagic** · 20 Mar 2011, 23:42 (Ref:2850308)

Looks unflat to me...

Tourer · 20 Mar 2011, 23:53 (Ref:2850315)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

How did #8 get around for that lap when the driver claims on twitter that the passenger rear was flat, and caused the accident?

Don't know - I'm just going on what the telecast said about him going around again - also the need for race control to black flag him when he didn't come straight in. Can't remember seeing a flat on the bits of footage of him afterwards.

Hmmmm

Reload · 21 Mar 2011, 01:54 (Ref:2850356)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Will he beat Jamie?

Hell no.

bluesport · 21 Mar 2011, 02:06 (Ref:2850361)

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Originally Posted by Reload

Hell no.

JW is a class act........would've liked to see him and Ambrose do battle.

STEALTHY · 21 Mar 2011, 04:23 (Ref:2850384)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

JW is a class act........would've liked to see him and Ambrose do battle.

Why? Ambrose would have just whinged on the radio for Jamie to pull over...

STEALTHY · 21 Mar 2011, 04:27 (Ref:2850386)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Looks unflat to me...

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Originally Posted by Tourer

Don't know - I'm just going on what the telecast said about him going around again - also the need for race control to black flag him when he didn't come straight in. Can't remember seeing a flat on the bits of footage of him afterwards.

Hmmmm

Tourer is right, no flat at all. All 4 tyres are still fully pumped on the lap extra he went around for.

Bright has never been a driver to admit error tho, theres very few who man up...

fomoco · 21 Mar 2011, 09:00 (Ref:2850442)

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Originally Posted by ForumNick

NSW (Sydney)

Ah then you missed a great episode of "THe Great south East"

TerryK · 21 Mar 2011, 09:02 (Ref:2850444)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Tourer is right, no flat at all. All 4 tyres are still fully pumped on the lap extra he went around for.

Bright has never been a driver to admit error tho, theres very few who man up...

We sit in the stand at turn 1 (inside chicane) & from where I was sitting he stuffed it up over the kerb & lost the rear...many drivers used the kerb & had a tail wiggle but held it...no brainer really, a "not so Bright move" as for the 2nd lap in that condition "bloody idiot" comes to mind.

Cheers Terry

STEALTHY · 21 Mar 2011, 09:06 (Ref:2850450)

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Originally Posted by TerryK

We sit in the stand at turn 1 (inside chicane) & from where I was sitting he stuffed it up over the kerb & lost the rear...many drivers used the kerb & had a tail wiggle but held it...no brainer really, a "not so Bright move" as for the 2nd lap in that condition "bloody idiot" comes to mind.

Cheers Terry

Blind freddy could see that it was loss of traction on the painted ripple strip that made him lose control (plus abit of running out of talent, JW or CL he defo aint)

TerryK · 21 Mar 2011, 10:30 (Ref:2850482)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Blind freddy could see that it was loss of traction on the painted ripple strip that made him lose control (plus abit of running out of talent, JW or CL he defo aint)

Are you calling me blind freddy ? Anyhow I must be smarter than "not so Bright" because I know what he did wrong, clearly he does not or won't admit it.

Some got away with it...some didn't

STEALTHY · 21 Mar 2011, 18:53 (Ref:2850736)

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Originally Posted by TerryK

Are you calling me blind freddy ? Anyhow I must be smarter than "not so Bright" because I know what he did wrong, clearly he does not or won't admit it.

Some got away with it...some didn't

Lol no, just reinforcing your point, that everyone (except bright it seems) see what the cause of his crash was.

**GTRMagic** · 2 Apr 2011, 06:33 (Ref:2857189)

A Day In The Life of Frosty & FPR

Hmmm... doesnt this tell us a few things...

The prebrief was interesting, over breakfast, talking generally about car behaviour, difficulties in some parts of the circuit.. it certainly wasnt a Mark Skaife-style characterisation of how the car felt, what it was doing, where the pressure points were... maybe the technical feedback is an area of improvement that the driver could work on with the team?

I wonder if Mr Davison was aware when he signed his deal that his pitstop strategy would be determined only after the #5 car had theirs worked out

Or whether the FPR guys were so worried about the SBR guy holding the rim in the #5's glidepath that they ignored that Frosty missed his marks and was too far forward, that the #5 had to do a 3 point turn to get around the pitted GRM car in front of him, while the team had the opportunity and were barked the instruction to push the car back, they chose not to do so before putting the air spike in...

The debrief was surprising, that they asked the driver his opinion of what went on, and the suggestion for an FPR crewman to make sure the area was clear was a logical one, followed by the driver's assertion that in the same circumstance, he would progress through the errant crewman...

Weird...

To me it seemed as though the FPR cars werent on the pace, they made changes (and the broadcast likely purposely didnt talk about what went on) but it was still ordinary. Wrong tyre pressures that upset the balance of the car badly seems a little um.. amateurish.. while the driver seemed genuinely affected/distracted by the vagaries of the pitstop failure.

Maybe also distracted from the fatherhood thing also..

Interesting...

Reload · 3 Apr 2011, 00:26 (Ref:2857599)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

A Day In The Life of Frosty & FPR

Hmmm... doesnt this tell us a few things...

The prebrief was interesting, over breakfast, talking generally about car behaviour, difficulties in some parts of the circuit.. it certainly wasnt a Mark Skaife-style characterisation of how the car felt, what it was doing, where the pressure points were... maybe the technical feedback is an area of improvement that the driver could work on with the team?

I wonder if Mr Davison was aware when he signed his deal that his pitstop strategy would be determined only after the #5 car had theirs worked out

Or whether the FPR guys were so worried about the SBR guy holding the rim in the #5's glidepath that they ignored that Frosty missed his marks and was too far forward, that the #5 had to do a 3 point turn to get around the pitted GRM car in front of him, while the team had the opportunity and were barked the instruction to push the car back, they chose not to do so before putting the air spike in...

The debrief was surprising, that they asked the driver his opinion of what went on, and the suggestion for an FPR crewman to make sure the area was clear was a logical one, followed by the driver's assertion that in the same circumstance, he would progress through the errant crewman...

Weird...

To me it seemed as though the FPR cars werent on the pace, they made changes (and the broadcast likely purposely didnt talk about what went on) but it was still ordinary. Wrong tyre pressures that upset the balance of the car badly seems a little um.. amateurish.. while the driver seemed genuinely affected/distracted by the vagaries of the pitstop failure.

Maybe also distracted from the fatherhood thing also..

Interesting...

GTR, with your comment regarding WD being #2, isn't the normal procedure for all of the multi car teams, to pit whoever is in front of the other in the race first ?

**GTRMagic** · 3 Apr 2011, 06:40 (Ref:2857627)

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Originally Posted by Reload

GTR, with your comment regarding WD being #2, isn't the normal procedure for all of the multi car teams, to pit whoever is in front of the other in the race first ?

The strategy discussion regarding whether any of the FPR cars were going to shortfill for an early stop happened in the pre race brief in the truck, before the cars got on track...

Axeman444 · 4 Apr 2011, 00:01 (Ref:2858310)

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Originally Posted by Reload

GTR, with your comment regarding WD being #2, isn't the normal procedure for all of the multi car teams, to pit whoever is in front of the other in the race first ?

no, CL is often pitted 1st out of the 888 Garage, and generally he is behind JW lately. Also helps that they are quite often on opposite strategies.

prior to last year's rule changes, apart from under SC, teams would often bring in the **ahem** pay driver cars in 1st to give the crews a warm up before the stars came in

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