[Official] Rate the Grand Prix: Canadian Grand Prix 2015

[wnut]

Originally Posted by JamesH

Hmm, I doubt it would be epic. Probably about the same as watching a FFord race, for 2 hrs.

Bit better than the 2015 Canadian GP I would suggest!

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by wnut

That is the point Chilli, 600 bhp with no downforce would be way overpowered, you would have to treat the throttle very carefully indeed, it would lead to a race where the man who could drive closest to 100% of what was available would win, mistakes would lose races.

i see your point and sure that may be a step in the right direction. certainly would be more fun to watch anyways.

no doubt being overly cynical here, but for me having that extra power still does not necessarily translate into the teams using that extra power hence the lift and save mentality we see more and more now.

its almost like they dont really know how to fight it out on track anymore.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

i see your point and sure that may be a step in the right direction. certainly would be more fun to watch anyways.

no doubt being overly cynical here, but for me having that extra power still does not necessarily translate into the teams using that extra power hence the lift and save mentality we see more and more now.

its almost like they dont really know how to fight it out on track anymore.

I think it is they don't want to race, that causes uncertain results, and that affects your income!

I think F1 has more than earned cynicism from its fans.

Dump the fuel restrictions too, they're just plain awful.
Fuel has its own self restriction, the amount it weighs!

Sprint cars on dirt ovals manage just fine with 800 bhp!
They are also better without wings, imo!

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Yes. Unpredictability was a huge factor in Formula 1 and the appeal. That's been lost and for the worse, imo, although retirements can be quite cruel sometimes. I too would also like to see Eau Rouge not be flat out, although at the same time I'd like to see technology advance in the cars, not be dragged back because that's what some of the fans want. I'm in favour for these changes. I'm also all in favour for the current leadership to keel over any minute as long as sensible, educated and open minded people can take over the reigns and do what's best for the sport and not their own pockets.

But a lot of 'issues' in F1 are not issues. Fuel saving is nothing compared to the payment disparity between teams. I can live with it, and so can F1, sustainably! These sorts of issues really should not be a priority for Formula 1 is changes are to be made.

[wnut]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Yes. Unpredictability was a huge factor in Formula 1 and the appeal. That's been lost and for the worse, imo, although retirements can be quite cruel sometimes. I too would also like to see Eau Rouge not be flat out, although at the same time I'd like to see technology advance in the cars, not be dragged back because that's what some of the fans want. I'm in favour for these changes. I'm also all in favour for the current leadership to keel over any minute as long as sensible, educated and open minded people can take over the reigns and do what's best for the sport and not their own pockets.

But a lot of 'issues' in F1 are not issues. Fuel saving is nothing compared to the payment disparity between teams. I can live with it, and so can F1, sustainably! These sorts of issues really should not be a priority for Formula 1 is changes are to be made.

As we've discussed to death Biscuits, F1s are already "dragged back" and very limited and restricted from using all manner of technologies, it is a de facto spec formula,so a couple of new restrictions will make no difference whatsoever.
So why not make their ability to race paramount?

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by wnut

As we've discussed to death Biscuits, F1s are already "dragged back" and very limited and restricted from using all manner of technologies, it is a de facto spec formula,so a couple of new restrictions will make no difference whatsoever.
So why not make their ability to race paramount?

How about this. More advanced/powerful powertrains but less aero dependency + downforce. Eau Rouge no longer flat. Improved tech + challenge. What's not to love?

And don't answer back saying costs because I know. Or some other grumbling about how the 1980s were better.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

How about this. More advanced/powerful powertrains but less aero dependency + downforce. Eau Rouge no longer flat. Improved tech + challenge. What's not to love?

And don't answer back saying costs because I know. Or some other grumbling about how the 1980s were better.

Less aero would mean less spent on aero and should help keep costs down.

[smellysocks]

A two is all I can give Montreal. A once exciting race now reduced to 'lift and coast' conservation of fuel and rubber under the new rules. Sad.