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Old 30 Jul 2013, 20:44 (Ref:3283937)   #16
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This sort of thing fascinates me - it helps if you're a (possibly misguided) nostalgist like me. I have the first "Autodrome" book and also Julian Hunt's excellent book on tracks and hillclimbs in the UK "Motorsport Explorer". I've really always wanted to spend a couple of months on the Continent, looking up the old courses which are mentioned in classic reports and biographies - Motor Sport magazine did a series of features on these tracks which made interesting reading.

Strictly speaking, most of the tracks in Europe aren't any such thing, since they're largely composed of public roads, such as Rheims and Rouen. I've long wanted to visit those lesser circuits which crop up in accounts of overseas adventures by British privateers and smaller teams - Chimay, Mettet, Cadours etc.. And drive down the "Muldoon" - is that possible now? So much has changed at La Sarthe.... And then there's Sitges in Spain, and Solitude in Germany...it goes on and on, it could take me months. Then add to that those magnificent roads which made up the European Hillclimb Championship, all public roads which can still be covered in your own car.

Oh.... and the Targa Florio, and then there's the Mille Miglia.......crikey, I'll need 6 months, at least, cos I also wanted to see WW1 and WW2 battlefields. The cost, the cost........
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Old 30 Jul 2013, 21:09 (Ref:3283946)   #17
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It's a hell of a plan........
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Old 30 Jul 2013, 21:09 (Ref:3283947)   #18
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Yes, I'd love to go there too. And Rouen, although the locals have virtually erased all memory of the fact that there was a great race circuit there..... This is quite an interesting read...
I'll be in Rouen in about 5 weeks time. I've driven round the old circuit several times but on this occasion I'm hoping to drop my wife and daughters off to do their best with the old town's finest shops while I head off to discover what's left of the race track
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Old 30 Jul 2013, 21:10 (Ref:3283949)   #19
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Apart from some of the roads themselves, my understanding is that there is virtually nothing.... Please prove me wrong!
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Old 30 Jul 2013, 21:54 (Ref:3283964)   #20
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No.2 is in development hell, 80% complete... but its never quite done.
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No.2 is in development hell, 80% complete... but its never quite done.
I've asked about the second book so many times at the Brands Hatch bookshop, I must drive the man nuts!
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Old 31 Jul 2013, 07:11 (Ref:3284092)   #22
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What a great idea for a thread! Crystal Palace in particular has always interested me
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I couls show you also countless supermarkets and new flat developments where there used to be stockc ar tracks.

There are literally tens of them!
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So much has changed at La Sarthe.... And then there's Sitges in Spain, and Solitude in Germany...it goes on and on, it could take me months.
flown over sitges a few times, and each time meant to divert via there when i pick up the hire car. each time i've forgotten. solitude is the one near stuttgart right? due to go past there at some point in september/october, quite tempted to stop and have a look...
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I couls show you also countless supermarkets and new flat developments where there used to be stockc ar tracks.

There are literally tens of them!
I think there's a site somewhere on the web about these, started by Simon Lewis (of bookshop fame). Fascinating.

Most of the old UK airfield tracks have now disappeared beneath the onslaught of Tesco and Asda. In "Motorsport Explorer" the author sometimes has to guess where tracks used to run.
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There's lots of info on circuits old and new here:

http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits/racingcircuits/

I also have a plug in for Google Earth called Motorsport.kmz which gives the location for most of the circuits on the above website. I can't remember where I got it from but it's very useful

Edit: Google earth plug ins can be found here: http://www.aerialf1.com/

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Not a track but the Paddock.

Spanish GP 1975. The ill fated race at Montuic used a derelict Stadium for the Paddock.




Since rebuilt for the 90's Olympic Games.

Went to Barcalona a couple of years ago. All I found of the Montjuic circuit was a plaque just down from the cable car entrance mentioning the existance of the circuit.
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Old 31 Jul 2013, 12:13 (Ref:3284203)   #28
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Went to Barcalona a couple of years ago. All I found of the Montjuic circuit was a plaque just down from the cable car entrance mentioning the existance of the circuit.
Apart from a bit of road alignment and the odd roundabout the original layout is still there but as you say there's very little to show it's racing history and what happened there. It must have been an amazing circuit. Blindingly fast in places with a lot of elevation changes.
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No.2 is in development hell, 80% complete... but its never quite done.
If the first one gets reprinted that would not be a bad thing. Used copies are $300 on amazon!
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It won't be, but an anthology may well be on the cards, once all four books are complete
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