bright on ambrose

rocket · 13 Apr 2003, 07:24 (Ref:567875)

so everyone got on their high horse when ingall hit murphy at adelaide and now bright hits ambrose, to me this is worse than the ingall incident if you look where bright was he was totaly off the racing line & trying to go down the inside of ambrose. befpre they even made contact brights car was pointed towards pit lane so where did he think he was going to go if he got past, then to make things worse he continues to push ambrose around the corner eventually spining him, bright sais he had damaged steering if so then why didnt he just back off instead of continuing to hassel ambrose, bright should get at least the same penalty as ingall received(30sec) which will take him back to 12th by the times they showed on ch10
will this happen or will it be another holden benefit

pete55 · 13 Apr 2003, 07:29 (Ref:567880)

I think you should wait til the stewards hearing. I don't think it is all cut and dried taking into consideration the weather conditions and speed of the two cars and tyres etc.

Dazz · 13 Apr 2003, 07:31 (Ref:567881)

To me the initial contact was questionable from a who is right and who is wrong point of view. Ambrose did not appear to be right over to the left, of have a blinker on (does he have to anyway?), but Bright was very optimistic on figuring that was an oppertunity to get through.

BUT, I saw no evidence of Bright slowing after the initial contact, nd kept driving right through Ambrose until he turned him around. His steering might not have been ok, but I'm sure the brake pedal was fine.

See how it pans out I guess, but personally Bright should be penalised.

DNQ · 13 Apr 2003, 07:59 (Ref:567902)

In my books, the initial mixup was a racing incident, but the fact that Bright continued to hammer into the side of Ambrose means Bright should have been penalised IMO. He just didn't let up, and did not stop until Ambrose spun.

The first bit, fine, the second bit, terrible... a very bad move by Bright.

William Dale Jr · 13 Apr 2003, 09:18 (Ref:567943)

Did Brighty know Ambrose was still on slicks? If not, he should have been told by his team and, had that happened, he probably would have decided to be patient and not risk anything.

marcus · 13 Apr 2003, 09:35 (Ref:567955)

I agree , the first incident was just racing but bright should have backed off , the fact he just kept his boot into it was crazy.

the first incident was simply racing , it IS a good place to pass at the island , you just have to get to the inside of someone there and you have the corner and if Ambrose wasnt going to the pits then Bright would have made a clean pass , it was a mix up full stop , but the prolonging of the incident should never have happened.

275 GTB-4 · 13 Apr 2003, 09:41 (Ref:567960)

Quote:

Originally posted by DNQ
In my books, the initial mixup was a racing incident, but the fact that Bright continued to hammer into the side of Ambrose means Bright should have been penalised IMO. He just didn't let up, and did not stop until Ambrose spun.

The first bit, fine, the second bit, terrible... a very bad move by Bright.

Yep, looks bad for Mr Bright:confused:

Troy · 13 Apr 2003, 09:58 (Ref:567970)

According to this article - http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0...-23210,00.html it looks like the protest has been dismissed.

Quote:

Ambrose's Stone Brothers Racing team lodged a protest against Bright, which was dismissed after a 90-minute post-race hearing.

DarthFalcon · 13 Apr 2003, 10:06 (Ref:567976)

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Ambrose's Stone Brothers Racing team lodged a protest against Bright, which was dismissed after a 90-minute post-race hearing.
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The power of the mighty Symbol!

Crash Test · 13 Apr 2003, 10:07 (Ref:567979)

You're pooping me?

Deadset, the stewards must have been down the beach having a surf...

I agree with ya'll- first bit racing incident, then what the heck followed? Maybe he had some of that suss PI drinking water?

sevi · 13 Apr 2003, 10:08 (Ref:567980)

Quote:

Originally posted by William Dale Jr
Did Brighty know Ambrose was still on slicks? If not, he should have been told by his team and, had that happened, he probably would have decided to be patient and not risk anything.

That is what rain lights are for, to let others know. If you have wets on it is compulsory for the light to be on.

Scott75 · 13 Apr 2003, 10:25 (Ref:567997)

I'm not making any excuses but did Bright's steering break during the contact, I flicked the tv on and saw him struggling around with the front wheel going everywhere. I haven't scene the full replay yet so maybe you guys can let me know. Going on what all of you have said, maybe the broken steering could have made him kept going into Ambroses car. Just a thought. If it didn't break then I think Mr.Bright has some expaining to do.

sevi · 13 Apr 2003, 10:31 (Ref:568001)

remember I am just the messenger, it has been found to be a racing incident. Marcus and Bright were dualing for position the lap when Marcus was told to come in to pit. When Marcus went to turn into pitlane and he and Murph hit it bent Murphs steering.That was why he was hitting Marcus. Still doesn't break, the brake pedal though.

simon5574 · 13 Apr 2003, 10:40 (Ref:568008)

Sevi is referring to Bright.

(easier just to say Symbol driver 1,2,3,4,5 or 6 or 7 or 8...)

simon5574 · 13 Apr 2003, 10:43 (Ref:568010)

Honestly amazing outcome by the stewards on that one?!?

Any news on Symbol 1 (Skaife) rotating Symbol 3 (Murph)?

sevi · 13 Apr 2003, 10:50 (Ref:568017)

yes another racing incident.

simon5574 · 13 Apr 2003, 10:59 (Ref:568021)

Crazy!

Airhead · 13 Apr 2003, 11:27 (Ref:568040)

How come my symbols are always getting hit??

Or just F'ing useless!!

Come on Seton!

The Tool Man · 13 Apr 2003, 11:49 (Ref:568058)

I dont buy the Racing incident line, in the bright /Ambrose case. As Crashy says maybe the first bit was but the rest of the incident PFFFFFT. Racing Incident My Ass.
What was "Not Very" thinking, sure he didnt know what Ambrose was doing but it appeared as if he was deliberatley pushing Ambrose out of the way. - I dont know what them there stewards are smoking but its obviously better than what they grow around here

As For the Skaife Murphy incident that could have been considered a racing incident it was two hard to tell.

Mark Webber · 13 Apr 2003, 12:03 (Ref:568070)

so HRT/HRO got away with it all . Really I don't belive it

Crash Test · 13 Apr 2003, 12:15 (Ref:568079)

What's the difference between turning into someone on purpose, and continuing to plough into someone on purpose? Let's face it, if it wasn't on purpose, he could have buttoned off...

Acj 428 · 13 Apr 2003, 12:28 (Ref:568089)

If (not so)bright, steering problems were SOOOO BAAAD! to cause him to continually plow into ambrose then why didn't he keep on steering to the right and go off the track....after ambrose was out of his way???? Instead he finished the race.

First part was a race incident the rest was pure Malice!!!!

Peter.

The Tool Man · 13 Apr 2003, 12:28 (Ref:568090)

Yep - Thats what I thought. It reminded me of an incident at the same circuit last year with Romano and Forbes.
Some Sweet stuff those stewards are on I think.

Wheres Ours ???

sevi · 13 Apr 2003, 12:29 (Ref:568093)

So SBR get penalised twice in as many meetings.

Crash Test · 13 Apr 2003, 12:31 (Ref:568095)

Hrrmmm, they get penalised in Adelaide, but were shafted at PI while Skaife and Bright got away unpenalised...

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