Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15 May 2005, 15:23 (Ref:1301517)   #1
TedN
Racer
 
TedN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Canada
Georgetown, ON, Canada
Posts: 378
TedN should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridTedN should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Richards Back to BAR?

Don't know this publication so can't vouch for it's integrity. Can anyone comment?

Ted

Quote:
Sunday 15 May 2005 10:53am
RICHARDS BACK ON THE BUTTON
New BAR move to keep Jenson
by Scott Piecha And Paul Myles

DAVE RICHARDS is set for a sensational return to Formula One racing as BAR throw everything into keeping Jenson Button in the team.

The former BAR team principal is set to take up the reins again after the turmoil of being branded cheats by the sport's ruling body, the FIA, over their cars' 'secret' fuel tanks.

Richards has spent the past week deep in negotiations with the Honda-backed team and most insiders expect him to be confirmed as the team principal at next week's Monaco round.

BAR will serve the second race ban at the premier Monte Carlo event but, while their cars and mechanics will stay away, the team will have a strong hospitality presence - perfect for the high-profile announcement.

The move is also seen as a last-ditch attempt to get Button back on track to score the championship points - 75 per cent of the series leader's tally by the end of July - to prevent the young Briton defecting to Williams next season. And some sources close to the team admit to breathing a sigh of relief that a top operator like Richards is back at the helm to steady the BAR ship after their disastrous start to the season.

One told Revved Up: "This is fantastic news for the team and a sure sign they are sparing no effort to make BAR the most professional team on the grid.

"With Richards' wealth of experience we can look forward to a calming influence that will get the results we need to keep Button in the team."

BAR's season slumped into near- chaos when the FIA turned over the findings of its own stewards at San Marino, where Button scored a podium finish. A court of appeal found BAR had been guilty of illegally using fuel as ballast and that the 'dry' weight of Button's car was more than five kilograms below the 600kg limit.

Button and team-mate Takuma Sato, who finished fifth, were stripped of the San Marino result and the team banned from the next two races.

The European Grand Prix at the Nurburgring is the first race at which Richards is expected to take charge of BAR.
TedN is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 15:43 (Ref:1301528)   #2
BootsOntheSide
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
England
Eastbourne, England
Posts: 13,000
BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Even news sites are referring to the "illegal secret fuel tank" which is ridiculous . The tank is legal, having a dry weight below 600kg (and thus using fuel as (moveable) ballast) is illegal, and that's what they were banned for.

But anyway.

It would be a surprise to see Richards returning so soon, epsecially as they only recently brought Gil de Ferran into the management. The whole thing falls down if you believe the notin that Jenson adn David didn't get on by the end of their time together - if anythign they may be plannign for a Jenson-less future already.
BootsOntheSide is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 15:47 (Ref:1301534)   #3
f1manoz
Veteran
 
f1manoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Australia
Lincolnshire, UK
Posts: 7,294
f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
They should never have got rid of the guy in the first place.
f1manoz is offline  
__________________
Sunderland Til I Die!
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 16:03 (Ref:1301542)   #4
naughtymutt
Racer
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 292
naughtymutt should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Would Richards want to do it?

After all, winning with Aston Martin (and beating Ferrari, Maserati, Chev etc) has to be better than finishing behind them.
naughtymutt is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 16:12 (Ref:1301546)   #5
JeremySmith
Veteran
 
JeremySmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
United Kingdom
Austin Texas
Posts: 11,402
JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!
Sorry I should know this, but I don't..Could someone please explain who Dave Richards is, and if this is indeed the case that he is coming back to BAR what will happen to Gil de Ferran? Thank you again!
JeremySmith is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 17:20 (Ref:1301585)   #6
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 42,598
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Here is a summary of him up to when he became involved in BAR: http://www.grandprix.com/gpe/cref-ricdav.html

As for going back to BAR, I doubt it. The story above doesn't seem that credible. He is very busy doing numerous other projects and is in no need of the work.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 17:30 (Ref:1301588)   #7
Silk Cut Jaguar
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
United Kingdom
Bath, UK
Posts: 1,349
Silk Cut Jaguar should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridSilk Cut Jaguar should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The fact is the last season or so was spent with ProDrive putting the tools in place so the team could run itself without the need for PD or Dave Richards to be in charge. Prodrive were paid to turn the team around and get it standing on its own two feet, they did that, cashed the cheques and moved on. Yes, Richards was dumped rather quickly but he was never due to stay there forever anyway.

People seem to talk up David Richards, but surely the fault of BAR's lack of form falls more at the feet of the people who designed the 007 more than anyone else.
Silk Cut Jaguar is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 18:06 (Ref:1301610)   #8
BootsOntheSide
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
England
Eastbourne, England
Posts: 13,000
BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I'll believe it when I see it. The team essentially brought Prodrive and Richards in on a 'troiuble-shooting' basis, and the official line is that he left a year early ebcause he'd finsihed the job a year early (although some (JV fans mainly - the guys who call him 'Prix Richards' on other inferior forums) paint a different picture). The 007 car is actually pretty fast, it;'s jsut been unreliable and there have been some organisational blunders, which perhaps Dave would'be prevented.
BootsOntheSide is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 18:19 (Ref:1301622)   #9
JeremySmith
Veteran
 
JeremySmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
United Kingdom
Austin Texas
Posts: 11,402
JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!
Thank you Adam
JeremySmith is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2005, 18:48 (Ref:1301648)   #10
Kicking-back
Registered User
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
And lets not forget that Nick Fry, is a Prodrive man.

Richards was not "sacked".
Kicking-back is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 12:38 (Ref:1302166)   #11
N I Tram
Veteran
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,550
N I Tram should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
David Richards is doing a bit better for himself than BAR right now, so I doubt he'd want to return. It was a sinking ship when he joined, and it's a sinking ship again the second he leaves.
N I Tram is offline  
__________________
"Stacy's mom has got it going on, she's all I want, and I've waited so long. Stacy can't you see, you're just not the girl for me, I know it might be wrong but I'm in love with Stacy's mom"
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 14:51 (Ref:1302268)   #12
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 9,746
chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!
surely DR had something to do with the development of the 007 and his knowledge of F1 and the FIA probably ment that if he met with honda, their lawyers probably just wanted to talk to him about anything in connection to the fuel tank, etc.. i also seem to remember that his contract was bought out and that he, at least publicaly, didn't have any negative comments about the team when he left so i dont think he got canned. he got paid and moved on. any ways cant seem to find this article anywhere but the site you linked it too as i would like to know what they were talking about.
chillibowl is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1302274)   #13
Kirk
Veteran
 
Kirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,043
Kirk has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
I find it humorous and ironic that this story comes out right on the heels of the French Canadian press reporting that JV and Gil de Ferran also met recently. Perhaps they are having a reunion party.
Kirk is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 15:05 (Ref:1302276)   #14
the_royksopp
Veteran
 
the_royksopp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Denmark
Skørping, Denmark
Posts: 1,800
the_royksopp should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I dont believe it. The media needs a scapegoat for BARs lack of success this year, and thats Nick Fry.
the_royksopp is offline  
__________________
TR!
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 17:37 (Ref:1302389)   #15
BootsOntheSide
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
England
Eastbourne, England
Posts: 13,000
BootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridBootsOntheSide should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Dave Richards clearly isn't responsible for any lack of pace the car has, and it seems to be inferior to at least 2 other Michelin teams, but I'm not convinced the weight issue or the deliberate retirements would've been things he'd've stood for.
BootsOntheSide is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 20:08 (Ref:1302536)   #16
slicktoast
Veteran
 
slicktoast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location:
Axtel,Oh,USA
Posts: 731
slicktoast should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid

If I missed any, I apologize, but did Gil have anything to say about the under-weight debacle?
I can't see DR coming back other than to rub somebody's nose in it.
slicktoast is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 20:42 (Ref:1302558)   #17
Kicking-back
Registered User
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Gil said nothing in public.

It was his first race - probably knew nothing about it
Kicking-back is offline  
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 20:50 (Ref:1302561)   #18
GTRMagic
Race Official
1% Club
 
GTRMagic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Australia
Sell me this pen....
Posts: 46,695
GTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameGTRMagic will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by naughtymutt
Would Richards want to do it?

After all, winning with Aston Martin (and beating Ferrari, Maserati, Chev etc) has to be better than finishing behind them.
Perhaps, but Mr Richards couyd name his price now surely
GTRMagic is offline  
__________________
Happy David Thexton Day, 21st March 2003
“I am not uncertain” - Dollar Bill Stern, Billions
“Fear stimulates my imagination” - Don Draper, Mad Men
“Everybody Lies” - Dr Gregory House, House
“Trust But Verify” - Commissioner Frank Reagan, Blue Bloods
Quote
Old 16 May 2005, 23:24 (Ref:1302645)   #19
Logrence
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Wales
Posts: 2,299
Logrence should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kicking-back
And lets not forget that Nick Fry, is a Prodrive man.

Richards was not "sacked".
As far as I'm aware Nick Fry was a Prodrive man - left to run some F1 team.
Logrence is offline  
Quote
Old 17 May 2005, 00:39 (Ref:1302673)   #20
thejester
Veteran
 
thejester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
New Zealand
Wellington
Posts: 518
thejester should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
sounds like the article is unsubstansiated nonsense, but were they to do it they had better look for Disney sponsorship as the team would look even more mickey mouse than it already does.
thejester is offline  
__________________
Monaco '67 - Greatest GP ever!!
Quote
Old 17 May 2005, 02:11 (Ref:1302690)   #21
JeremySmith
Veteran
 
JeremySmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
United Kingdom
Austin Texas
Posts: 11,402
JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!JeremySmith is going for a new world record!
Has anyone seen Gil de Ferran? I just wonder what he thinks of all this blinking nonsense?
JeremySmith is offline  
Quote
Old 17 May 2005, 05:22 (Ref:1302731)   #22
Kicking-back
Registered User
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,661
Kicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridKicking-back should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Gil has said nothing in public.

It was his first race - probably knew nothing about it.
Kicking-back is offline  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Geoff Richards Peter Harding Tributes Forum 2 20 Dec 2005 10:19
Richards does it again! Rowdy Australasian Touring Cars. 6 16 Aug 2004 08:43
David Richards or JV to go from BAR? favara Formula One 52 15 Sep 2003 13:10
Villeneuve Fires Back at Richards Mania Formula One 46 25 Jun 2002 04:42


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:36.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.