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Old 31 Jan 2012, 11:00 (Ref:3019336)   #1
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New McLaren set to cause controversy

Mclaren will launch its car tomorrow (Feb 1), and looks set to cause a legal battle with other teams and engineers.

It is thought that McLaren have concentrated on single lap pace, because:


"McGrath added that beating qualifying master Sebastian Vettel will be crucial if McLaren is to be successful in 2012, particularly as its analysis indicated that the raw pace of last year's MP4-26 was superior towards the end of the season despite Red Bull and Vettel's run of poles."

"He must be a brilliant driver, because by the end of last season we definitely had the best car and he was still whupping us," McGrath said.

"We're trying to figure out exactly what he's doing that's so good. How does he pull out that fast qualifying lap every time? We think it's driver skill. There's no trickery on the cars, he just gets more out of it than we do."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97233
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 12:21 (Ref:3019361)   #2
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ss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridss_collins should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Curiously the story is no longer there
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 12:24 (Ref:3019362)   #3
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Curiously the story is no longer there
Yeah! That's really weird!
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 13:20 (Ref:3019376)   #4
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That should be controversial !
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 17:13 (Ref:3019450)   #5
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 19:34 (Ref:3019503)   #6
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So what exactly was supposed to be controversial? They wanna go quicker than Fingerboy? Man, that should get everyone thinking..........
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 19:56 (Ref:3019515)   #7
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Sky latched onto the story. Here's part of it: http://www.formula1blog.com/2012/01/...missing-story/

The still missing part is that someone from McLaren said that at the end of last season they felt they had the fastest car and it was only Vettel's ability that was still getting him pole positions. Not exactly a vote of confidence in your own drivers.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 20:01 (Ref:3019517)   #8
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Sky latched onto the story. Here's part of it: http://www.formula1blog.com/2012/01/...missing-story/

The still missing part is that someone from McLaren said that at the end of last season they felt they had the fastest car and it was only Vettel's ability that was still getting him pole positions. Not exactly a vote of confidence in your own drivers.
The missing part is in my 1st post.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 20:57 (Ref:3019545)   #9
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In that link of mine, there was a further link to the Sky story. Now that's disappeared!

Classic case of closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.
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The missing part is in my 1st post.

Where? In the now missing link? Because none of the quotes do more than say what we (and McLaren) know already. Vettel's a bit quick......
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yeah doesn't seem too damning but who knows. maybe they pulled it because it went up a day too early...i guess we will find out one way or another when the wrapper comes off tomorrow.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 21:42 (Ref:3019574)   #12
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The question is... where's the missing link ?


No questions about Vettel's talent, the question would be how to beat him.
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that is funny!
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 22:06 (Ref:3019598)   #14
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So Marbot - what did the Autosport report say that suggests controversy??
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 22:08 (Ref:3019601)   #15
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The controversy is that there is an Autosport article where they forgot to put the word SLAM in the headline.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 22:40 (Ref:3019619)   #16
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I don't suppose that it's going to go down too well with your team that you've pointed out that your car is a bit 'iffy' and that Vettel is actually quicker than your own drivers.
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Old 31 Jan 2012, 23:54 (Ref:3019638)   #17
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So, getting back to the controversial thing that Maclaren have done? Who'll give me odds on 6 wheels, tracked (for getting out of gravel that much easier) and laser cannons in the brake ducts?

We already know about the laser cannons - look at the way that Vettel's tyre deflated on the first corner at Abu Dhabi?

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So, getting back to the controversial thing that Maclaren have done?
Made a car that actually goes well in testing?

Caterham have already done 'ugly', so let's see what McLaren have/have not made of their far superior abilities.

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I can't say I'm spotting any non-laser cannon capability controversy here.......

I know we all want to big the season up, but it would be good to have some actual news first!
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The controversy is that there is an Autosport article where they forgot to put the word SLAM in the headline.
Other teams eye to slam new McLaren.
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looking at the launch footage the controversy seems to be in the nose/front wing area
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looking at the launch footage the controversy seems to be in the nose/front wing area
Yeah, it looks normal. Shock horror.
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Yeah. Nothing remarkable about it at all. It almost looks as if they've wheeled out an older car!
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Nothing remarkable about it at all.
How about the exhaust bulge? http://www.racecar-engineering.com/w...02/upmp427.jpg
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How about the exhaust bulge?
It's very....aerodynamic.

I hope that's not all that they have in the way of 'controversy'.
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