GT3 manufactures... - Page 46

HORNDAWG · 9 Oct 2015, 18:19 (Ref:3580851)

ROAL Motorsport to run BMW M6 GT3 in Blancpain.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2015/1...programme.html

L.P.

Speed-King · 9 Oct 2015, 22:29 (Ref:3580914)

**Adam43** · 10 Oct 2015, 17:11 (Ref:3581123)

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You are right. Posts removed.

Is everyone involved over that now? If you are coming here to have tedious petty arguments you are not welcome. See FAQ. Please leave those who prefer to discuss Sportscar racing in a civilised fashion alone.

TheDude · 12 Oct 2015, 14:12 (Ref:3582164)

AH competições will run 2 Huracáns instead of the M6's

Maybe something happened, since they dropped the "BMW Sports Trophy" moniker

The BMW looks like it's struggling to attract costumers, while the Lambo is a sale's success

Miguel · 14 Oct 2015, 17:57 (Ref:3582846)

Here's a full gallery of the new Porsche 991 GT3R: http://www.gt-report.com/2015/10/14/...ptism-of-fire/

Can't wait to see it race this weekend! Just have to hope the race will happen... Snow today at the Ring

TheDude · 14 Oct 2015, 19:18 (Ref:3582862)

snow already?

Miguel · 14 Oct 2015, 20:39 (Ref:3582889)

It's ****ing cold over here in western Europe. Unusually cold for this time of the year. Should get a bit better on Friday and Saturday, just have to hope it'll be good enough so the track isn't frozen in places like it was a couple of years ago for the season finale.

TheDude · 14 Oct 2015, 21:44 (Ref:3582904)

25 C here today...

BullMan · 14 Oct 2015, 23:19 (Ref:3582929)

MWM talked to the head guy at Callaway about the GT3 Corvette. He kinda danced around the question regarding someone buying a car and then entering it in PWC or IMSA. He did say that he thinks GM would throw their weight around and make sure the car would be banned from competition.

Who knows? Maybe the strange case of the American car that can't race in America might come here in a year or so. The guy whose name I can't remember did say that he's trying to get it approved to race in the US though. He also said that the car is going to spend a good bit of the winter testing in America!

HORNDAWG · 15 Oct 2015, 01:41 (Ref:3582950)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

MWM talked to the head guy at Callaway about the GT3 Corvette. He kinda danced around the question regarding someone buying a car and then entering it in PWC or IMSA. He did say that he thinks GM would throw their weight around and make sure the car would be banned from competition.

Who knows? Maybe the strange case of the American car that can't race in America might come here in a year or so. The guy whose name I can't remember did say that he's trying to get it approved to race in the US though. He also said that the car is going to spend a good bit of the winter testing in America!

Ernst Wöhr, and we must have listened to different interviews as he was pretty clear on why and how the car will not be in N. America.

L.P.

BullMan · 15 Oct 2015, 01:55 (Ref:3582953)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Ernst Wöhr, and we must have listened to different interviews as he was pretty clear on why and how the car will not be in N. America.

L.P.

You must have tuned out when he said that they were looking for money to one day race it in the US.

HORNDAWG · 15 Oct 2015, 01:59 (Ref:3582954)

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Originally Posted by BullMan

You must have tuned out when he said that they were looking for money to one day race it in the US.

He said they were looking for a financier from the states so they could build and support 20ish cars, all around the world, as Callaway GmbH is a small company.

L.P.

Coach Ep · 15 Oct 2015, 14:53 (Ref:3583065)

Time for the MWM postcast then!

nasportscar · 22 Oct 2015, 13:58 (Ref:3584750)

Thoughts or ideas on the future of GT3? Does it need help now to keep it going further than the next 4-5 years? http://nasportscar.com/does-gt3-need-proactive-saving/

YZFrider · 22 Oct 2015, 16:49 (Ref:3584780)

As long as there is money being being pumped into the GT3 class, costs will rise. Let's remember GT3 was a tier 2 or tier 3 series on the ladder when it begun. It was a support series. With GT1 going extinct and GT2 nearly there, GT3 was thrust into the spotlight as the premier class. Of course that will prompt the manufacturers to change the idea of which car to sell. A 911 GT3-R is sexier than a 911 GT3 Cup for a flagship series.

**chunterer** · 23 Oct 2015, 08:39 (Ref:3584945)

GT3 as far as global categopries go is in fairly rude health I would've thought?

No need to worry about it's future at the moment.

If Ratel decided it needs to be pegged back a bit he will make sure it is but with so much manufacturer interest that could be tricky to please everyone.

Speed-King · 23 Oct 2015, 13:21 (Ref:3584983)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

GT3 as far as global categopries go is in fairly rude health I would've thought?

People probably said the same about Super Touring in 1997 or so...

We're not looking at a full collapse or anything like that any time soon, but the trend in Europe is rather troubling and the cost of the cars is only going up. And sure, there are outside factors, especially in Europe, but when even Germany with its rather healthy economy has a hard time of putting together a 20-car grid there might be some reason for concern.

Coach Ep · 23 Oct 2015, 13:52 (Ref:3584988)

Isn't the ADAC GT series 'self-capped' at 25 since a couple of years, trying to create some sort of completely unnecessary exclusivity?

J Jay · 23 Oct 2015, 14:35 (Ref:3584996)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

People probably said the same about Super Touring in 1997 or so...

It's the nature of the collapsing bubble that things look at their rosiest just before it pops. Then we are treated to the cavalcade of hindsight experts and the books they try to peddle.

The increasing prices and costs can't go on forever.

**FIRE** · 23 Oct 2015, 14:59 (Ref:3585001)

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Originally Posted by Coach Ep

Isn't the ADAC GT series 'self-capped' at 25 since a couple of years,

IIRC since last season.

**FIRE** · 23 Oct 2015, 15:00 (Ref:3585003)

But ST was much more depending on manufacturers.

Speed-King · 23 Oct 2015, 15:42 (Ref:3585012)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

IIRC since last season.

Naw, it's been a while longer. IIRC the number is 28, but they never got close to that, so I am not sure if that was ever a factor or people just got disillusioned with running around in the mid-30s after the 2012 season.

Miguel · 23 Oct 2015, 22:18 (Ref:3585087)

I'd like to see a complete list of cars built between 2010 and now with their prices. From what I gathered, the prices are hardly going up, not by very much anyway. It just seems like the professionalism of the teams itself is going up, and that is what is costing a lot of money if you want to be competitive.

rich07 · 24 Oct 2015, 00:31 (Ref:3585103)

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Originally Posted by Miguel

I'd like to see a complete list of cars built between 2010 and now with their prices. From what I gathered, the prices are hardly going up, not by very much anyway. It just seems like the professionalism of the teams itself is going up, and that is what is costing a lot of money if you want to be competitive.

Very true.

When people start talking about using Computational Fluid Dynamics to help with their refuelling such as in the article below (I believe it has already been posted in this thread) then you know costs other then the cars themselves are going up.

http://sportscar365.com/gt/teams-voi...ing-gt3-costs/

TRspitfirefan · 24 Oct 2015, 02:34 (Ref:3585126)

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Originally Posted by Miguel

I'd like to see a complete list of cars built between 2010 and now with their prices. From what I gathered, the prices are hardly going up, not by very much anyway. It just seems like the professionalism of the teams itself is going up, and that is what is costing a lot of money if you want to be competitive.

+1
Here is a great article on "Raceconomics" written by Gil De Ferran for RACER magazine back in January.
I found it to be very insightful.

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...n-raceconomics

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