'Suzuki SC100' Special Saloon - help with history please!!

[Clive Brown]

.... and I have a feeling Cutting's second Maguire ( his first having gone to Pat and thence to Paul Gardner ) went to John Pugsley !

[peter thurston]

Originally Posted by col rooney

Clive is this the slab side car your on about



col

Thats the car I put the BDA 1800 in. When testing down the local bypass the drivers door got sucked out,scared me senseless!!As I was travelling and had no hat on or harness and thought I was going out as well.

[driftwood]

did you ever see Jimmy savilles clunck click every trip advert on TV- obviously not
i have no qualms to you driving down the bypass
i used to run my 100cc kart down the road to make sure it ran befor ei went off karting
cant do it today damn speed humps cause problems

[Rob Knox]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

.... and I have a feeling Cutting's second Maguire ( his first having gone to Pat and thence to Paul Gardner ) went to John Pugsley !

I purchased an ex Brain Cutting car back in Jan 98 was owned by Pierre Servais from Belgium the car was blue when raced by Brian in the 86 championship. owned after by Paul Gardner then yellow/black and finally by Martin Brockhouse?now red.But Paul sold the car to Pierre.

Have a letter from Paul Gardner June 91 selling the car also saying Maguire built spaceframes from 1981-86 my car is one of the last two made.

I think Brian had 3 Maguires the second being a round tube car that i think a chap by the name of HEINZ is rebuilding after talking to him (or trying to) at IMP national 07 at Paddock Wood he also had a Davrian IMP he was selling which Colin Rooney knows about..

Please note this is only from memory i could be wrong.

[Clive Brown]

A third Cutting Maguire ? Now that is news to me ! I can certainly remember what I thought was the second car ; it was light blue , and made its debut at Silverstone in the opening round of the Wendy Wools one year . Perhaps I was mistaken , and it was that car that went to Paul Gardner - but in that case where did John Pugsley's car come from .

Just out of interest , I believe the last Maguire Stiletto made was for DNA Racing of Burnley , and was raced by Tony Bridge .

Time for a Maguire Imp/Stiletto thread , perhaps ?

[Rob Knox]

Yes it does seem we have hijacked this thread sorry Andy.

Also thought Earling Jensen owned a Cutting car.

[driftwood]

maybe that is the Pugsley car as well all same area

Clive the problem with Maguire thread is cars not really have chassis numbers and its memory of who had what car that will start the list/rows!

My father had the 1st Maguire Imp sold
It was ex george coghill car then to Mike hands 1 legged? sprinter hillclimber had hand operated clutch on gear lever

Cutting had the 1st Stilleto

[Clive Brown]

Is Mike Hands related to Roland Hands ?

The very first Maguire Imp was I believe the 'works' car which Tom Sheppard drove ; that apparently does have a chassis plate with his name on it . This car now has an 1150 and Mk.9 Hewland , and does hillclimbs in Northern Ireland . It's current owner got it from a guy in Forfar called Angus Robertson , who apparently in turn acquire it from the late Ray Payne's son , Robert . Now , does anyone know who had the car in between ?

[stevie m]

Been up in the attic(xmas stuff!)came accross a pile of old CCC magazines.Jan 92' has an article on a Maguire Stiletto belonging to Rod MacLeod,before it was owned by Harry Simpson,Fredrick Knutsen and Firstly David Enderby.The chassis has a plate DE2 seems this car was to replace DE1 which was totaled at Thruxton,Brian Cutting and Pat Mannion's names were mentioned as the story unfolds.

[Clive Brown]

I well remember DE1 ( AKA Pig 1 ) and DE2 , having worked on and built the motors for both ! DE1 was a saloon , whereas as you correctly state , DE2 was a Stiletto .

The original Tom Sheppard car is a saloon chassis , rather than a fastback .

[JDM]

My name is John Donnelly. I have DE2. I bought it from Rod Mc Leod. I am in Northern Ireland . I have been watching this thread with intrest .

[driftwood]

Im struggling to remember the mans name it was michael and im sure it was hands he was looked after by ernie larton in morcambe then he got the maguire skoda after tom sheperd had run it in some circuit events

I believe George Coghill had the 1st customer car but
1 i aint gonna swear on th bible and
2 willing to hear objections
the car then went sprinting with Ben Boult- heard it may be in Ireland

[stevie m]

Seeing as this Suzuki SC100 thread's been taken over,I think I'll start another on this popular subject

[driftwood]

what will that be beer n women? topless darts?

[M.Lowe]

Originally Posted by Mike Holmes

Wasn't the Ben Bowlby car featured on a TV documentary? I seem to remember seeing a program on it?

I remember this programme
would love a copy on VHS or DVD if anyone has it, willing to pay costs.

Motoring News done a one page article on Bowlby's car years ago

I always thought there was only this one in existence

[davyboy]

Was it a documentary or the early 1980s 'Driving Ambition' TV drama series which featured the Wendy Wools championship protagonists and their cars ?

[driftwood]

no it was a TV documentry Horizon i believe

[chunterer]

No, it was a tv drama on Beeb 1.

We've mentioned somewhere earlier on one of these special saloon threads i'm sure?

Tony Davies' Firenza was driven by 'Alan Hershner' (actor is Gavin someone or other who was Terry in East Enders! later on) and Peter Baldwin's Mini was driven by 'Donna Hewitt'. Can't recall the actresses name though.

[Clive Brown]

The Ben Bowlby programme was part of a series called ' Equinox ' , which was a sort of Channel Four equivalent of ' Horizon ' .

The BBC Drama series starred Nicky Henson ( not Gavin Henson , he's the Taff rugby player ! ) as the villainous Alan Hershner , and Peter Baldwin as Donna Kebab .

[Alan Brown]

[QUOTE=Clive Brown]The Ben Bowlby programme was part of a series called ' Equinox ' , which was a sort of Channel Four equivalent of ' Horizon ' . /QUOTE]

Was it not about the Clubmans/Supersport car?

[Clive Brown]

Probably so .... the Clubman's car came 'twixt the Suzuki and his career at Lola .

Both Marshall & Fraser and David Enderby bought and ran Bowlby Mk. IIs , and neither were able to eradicate the predominant handling characteristic of the chassis , which was a tendency to exhibit a vicious snap oversteer condition in long high-speed corners .

On balance , it was probably therefore fortuitous that Ben's chosen career path lay in designing race cars , rather than civil airliners .

[driftwood]

Ginger marshall still has his car

[Clive Brown]

I tend to the view that if the Marshall and Fraser clan couldn't sort a car , then it was unsortable !

[big andy]

clive do you know what engine the kitten had

[col rooney]

Andy as far as i know after talking to Ginger at brands a few year ago its a 998imp he said it would not take a great deal to get it back out on track.Now that we seem to have a bit of intrest going in special and mod saloons do you think its worth trying to get a 1 of race in 09 some where ,Pete you interested in bringing the escort out and maybe Mad dog will join in with the metro ,would be a bit of fun

col