IMSA: USCR 2018 - Page 21

YZFrider · 18 Jul 2017, 16:24 (Ref:3752461)

As have been said by a few others:

This is good news for Mazda, doing the tough but right thing of pulling the trigger and upgrading to a better team.

No more Joest/VW DPi rumors. lol

Now wonder if Speedsource going to stay in the series or not?

Matt · 18 Jul 2017, 16:29 (Ref:3752462)

Speedsource's twitter, facebook page, and website have all disappeared. Like, lights out disappeared.

Methinks Speedsource wanted to get out, and were in way over their heads.

HORNDAWG · 18 Jul 2017, 16:39 (Ref:3752465)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

The article also stated this, "...Multimatic (which parted ways with Riley Technologies on the DPi/WEC P2 program)."

Unless I missed something, I was under the impression that the project was being "reorganized" with Multimatic taking the lead. I have not heard of an official split until that line above.

Yes, I believe that to be incorrect also. They are an ACO/IMSA/FIA selected constructor. I agree that 'taking the lead' would be a more appropriate statement.

L.P.

Danathar · 18 Jul 2017, 16:48 (Ref:3752466)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Speedsource's twitter, facebook page, and website have all disappeared. Like, lights out disappeared.

Methinks Speedsource wanted to get out, and were in way over their heads.

That's kinda cold. Just turning everything off. At the very least they could say SOMETHING.

JHamilton · 18 Jul 2017, 16:50 (Ref:3752468)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danathar

That's kinda cold. Just turning everything off. At the very least they could say SOMETHING.

My suspicion is that their only source of income is through Mazda and they have shuttered the company. That's the message I am receiving between the lines, anyway.

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 16:57 (Ref:3752470)

Quote:

Originally Posted by canaglia

Best team in the worst car/chassis powered by a not so great motor. Good Luck.

Wished to watch them in a VW backed dpi program

Joest will be lightyears ahead of Speedsource and to hell with VW for a bit. They made their bed - let them sleep in it.

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 17:00 (Ref:3752471)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

My suspicion is that their only source of income is through Mazda and they have shuttered the company. That's the message I am receiving between the lines, anyway.

Agreed. Moving operations from FLA to North GA, too.

Dare we say "Go Joest Mazda" since joeb is watching???

Akrapovic · 18 Jul 2017, 17:02 (Ref:3752472)

It does show Mazda is serious about this. The Prototype efforts always felt a bit half hearted.

Now there's a good few ex-Joest drivers kicking about who aren't Audi ambassadors. I wouldn't be surprised so see people like Bonanomi make an appearance.

JHamilton · 18 Jul 2017, 17:08 (Ref:3752473)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Agreed. Moving operations from FLA to North GA, too.

Dare we say "Go Joest Mazda" since joeb is watching???

I'm not sure he knows how to support a winning team...

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JHamilton · 18 Jul 2017, 17:09 (Ref:3752474)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It does show Mazda is serious about this. The Prototype efforts always felt a bit half hearted.

Now there's a good few ex-Joest drivers kicking about who aren't Audi ambassadors. I wouldn't be surprised so see people like Bonanomi make an appearance.

Pair him with Bomarito for Hindaugh hilarity.

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canaglia · 18 Jul 2017, 17:20 (Ref:3752478)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Joest will be lightyears ahead of Speedsource and to hell with VW for a bit. They made their bed - let them sleep in it.

Agree, joest will be the best team in grid, but most of all I'm concerned about the engine! the mazda-AER 2.0 L4 is poor and unreliable... is so unlikely that mazda will produce a fresh new engine?

**joeb** · 18 Jul 2017, 17:26 (Ref:3752480)

Quote:

Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

Agreed. Moving operations from FLA to North GA, too.

Dare we say "Go Joest Mazda" since joeb is watching???

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I'm not sure he knows how to support a winning team...

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Zing! I'll have to try and find a way to cope with a contending program.... Of course this means you'll get to hear some extra Mazda nonsense out of me in 2.5 months..... I'll start working on some talking points.....

Danathar · 18 Jul 2017, 17:29 (Ref:3752481)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

My suspicion is that their only source of income is through Mazda and they have shuttered the company. That's the message I am receiving between the lines, anyway.

Yea, but a facebook post costs nothing.

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 17:31 (Ref:3752482)

Quote:

Originally Posted by canaglia

Agree, joest will be the best team in grid, but most of all I'm concerned about the engine! the mazda-AER 2.0 L4 is poor and unreliable... is so unlikely that mazda will produce a fresh new engine?

Fair point, but was that really a SpeedSource issue? It did make it past 1,000 miles at PLM only to go BAM before the time was up.

Joest will be able to run the engine to it's fullest. Whether the fullest is good enough or not....

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

Pair him with Bomarito for Hindaugh hilarity.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I'm not sure he knows how to support a winning team...

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There's more Mazda's every weekend....

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 17:32 (Ref:3752483)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

Zing! I'll have to try and find a way to cope with a contending program.... Of course this means you'll get to hear some extra Mazda nonsense out of me in 2.5 months..... I'll start working on some talking points.....

Just be sure to share some the swag you'll certainly pick up.

knighty · 18 Jul 2017, 17:33 (Ref:3752484)

Quote:

Originally Posted by canaglia

Agree, joest will be the best team in grid, but most of all I'm concerned about the engine! the mazda-AER 2.0 L4 is poor and unreliable... is so unlikely that mazda will produce a fresh new engine?

I think AER can fulfill Joests engine needs, either increase the capacity of the I4 to about 2.2-2.4L......fit the 2.4 V6 which will be stiffer for a better handling chassis....or increase the V6 capacity to 3.0L or so.

canaglia · 18 Jul 2017, 17:51 (Ref:3752488)

Actually don't know... to me, stick with that AER-mazda is like beat a dead horse.... that engine has never been really reliable in the last 10 years, and sincerly I can't remember a reliable AER motor in the recent past.
A fresh engine is the right move... or maybe just rebadge a 4.2 gibson, if regs let that.

Matt · 18 Jul 2017, 17:55 (Ref:3752493)

Joest wont deal with an explodey engine for too long. theyll make them fix it.

knighty · 18 Jul 2017, 18:06 (Ref:3752499)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Joest wont deal with an explodey engine for too long. theyll make them fix it.

Exactly.....no place to hide now.....lightweight fragile engines have no place in an LMP

Damian Baldi · 18 Jul 2017, 18:21 (Ref:3752506)

ohh my...this is a big surprise.

It's all good news from my point of view (but not for SpeedSource).

First is that Mazda finally will have a strong partner. Multimatic said time ago that they will take full control of the Riley chassis ahead of next season. With the new tests and development from Joest/Multimatic, not only the Mazda will be better, the Riley won't be dead as is today.

carbsmith · 18 Jul 2017, 18:27 (Ref:3752511)

Feels kind of cheap to pull the plug on the season so they can send the cars to Joest instead of building a third one. I don't think they suddenly decided they can't put up with another 3 races of mediocrity after several seasons of it.

JHamilton · 18 Jul 2017, 18:33 (Ref:3752515)

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbsmith

Feels kind of cheap to pull the plug on the season so they can send the cars to Joest instead of building a third one. I don't think they suddenly decided they can't put up with another 3 races of mediocrity after several seasons of it.

There are homologation rules in play that lead to this decision.

Articus · 18 Jul 2017, 18:57 (Ref:3752525)

This is absolutely HUGE for american sports car racing. Joest Mazda and Penske Acura vs the Cadillacs. and ESM Nissans getting there ducks in a row (change all the drivers bar Derani...). The history books are going to be rewritten next year and it is going to be absolutely titanic!

MrBloodmuffins · 18 Jul 2017, 18:59 (Ref:3752526)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

This is absolutely HUGE for american sports car racing. Joest Mazda and Penske Acura vs the Cadillacs. and ESM Nissans getting there ducks in a row (change all the drivers bar Derani...). The history books are going to be rewritten next year and it is going to be absolutely titanic!

All that is 110% of what everyone was hoping for even if no more manufacturers announce participation between now and Daytona next year.

HighParker · 18 Jul 2017, 19:08 (Ref:3752535)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHamilton

Well, this is good news but I wish Speedsource would be able to finish the season.

It is unfortunate for those planning to attend one of the remaining three races with Prototypes in 2017 who now won't be seeing cars that had been expected to run the full season. I'd be annoyed if it happened before I saw them at Mosport.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chernaudi

... Also doesn't answer the claim that Atherton made that there's one more DPI manufacturer coming in. Replacing SpeedSource with Joest doesn't exactly grow the field. But then again, Atherton could've been weaving a red herring.

If there is one more mysteriously unnamed manufacturer on the way for 2018, they've done a good job of keeping it a secret so far.

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