Lada to race in WTCC from 2006 - Page 2

kmchow · 5 Nov 2005, 20:04 (Ref:1452979)

Russia actually had their ST series back in the late nineties too averaging about 4-6 cars per a race? A pair of Accords, 1 Mondeo, 1 BMW that I could recall. Don't know if it was a multi class series though?

cybersdorf · 5 Nov 2005, 23:13 (Ref:1453097)

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

Come on, unless they've come on leaps and bounds, i don't see the point.

That's a less-than-commendable attitude, to put it politely. They've got to start somewhere. So they'll suck the first year. Remember Chevy?

Nordic · 6 Nov 2005, 10:07 (Ref:1453276)

Given the amount of money washing around Russia these days, should one of the oil or steel billionaires want to make a name for himself and get behind it by creating a Lada a world class team then the others better watchout. After all if RML can put a Daewoo into the top ten then why not a Lada?

Not sure if BMW would stick around for long when there tails get whipped by a lada though.

racer69 · 6 Nov 2005, 11:42 (Ref:1453306)

Great stuff.

Some (not all) are all very happy to criticize if a category can't get a grid, yet pan a manufacturer putting in abit of effort (and money) to participate in a series?

I would ask all the one's having a laugh, how many of you have actually driven a Lada?

The STIG · 6 Nov 2005, 13:30 (Ref:1453347)

is it me, or does this lada have a hint of Peugeot 406 about it?

cybersdorf · 6 Nov 2005, 14:57 (Ref:1453374)

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Originally Posted by The STIG

is it me, or does this lada have a hint of Peugeot 406 about it?

No that is you I'm afraid.

Smaller car, and older design, too. To be fair, the road car looks awful.

Fiorentina 1 · 6 Nov 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1453376)

And, from what I ubderstand they want an American driver for extra exposure. They hired a marketing company in the U.S to head the deal.

Nordic · 6 Nov 2005, 15:33 (Ref:1453403)

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Originally Posted by Chris Roden

Lada, IIRC, used to run an international rally team back in the seventies. They used to do reasonably well in the RAC rally (in class) I think.

Other teams in those days included Skoda (of course) who used to clean up in class, and those delightfuly named Wartburg Knights, three cylinder two stroke machines...

Don't underestimate their cars if they get their act together

You could also add Moskvitch to that list, BTCC class champions of there day.

Good luck to them.

cybersdorf · 6 Nov 2005, 16:04 (Ref:1453422)

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Originally Posted by Fiorentina 1

And, from what I ubderstand they want an American driver for extra exposure. They hired a marketing company in the U.S to head the deal.

Hmmm, no I don't see that, to be honest. What good would an American driver do them in Europe. From what I have read (with difficulty!) they would like to hire one of the Czech whiz kids - Enge, Janis, Lacko, one of these folks. Let's see if they'll return their calls.

Let's see what the finished product looks like - after all, this was a tuning show where the car was presented. I'm almost sure it is a show car.

kmchow · 6 Nov 2005, 23:07 (Ref:1453745)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Given the amount of money washing around Russia these days, should one of the oil or steel billionaires want to make a name for himself and get behind it by creating a Lada a world class team then the others better watchout. After all if RML can put a Daewoo into the top ten then why not a Lada?

If I remember correctly, the 2 Accords were sponsored by Lukoil(sp?) oil company. But isn't the chairman now being arrested and tried for tax invasion?

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Not sure if BMW would stick around for long when there tails get whipped by a lada though.

Given enough money and if the car was being designed/built/run by a top touring car team, that could be possible?

kmchow · 6 Nov 2005, 23:10 (Ref:1453746)

[QUOTE=racer69]Great stuff.

Some (not all) are all very happy to criticize if a category can't get a grid, yet pan a manufacturer putting in abit of effort (and money) to participate in a series??/QUOTE]
Yes, perhaps everyone can be more encouraging starting from now. Even Volvo struggled in S2000 during their time in the WTCC.

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Originally Posted by racer69

I would ask all the one's having a laugh, how many of you have actually driven a Lada?

Good question, I've never personally driven a Lada or Yugo for that matter. I don't think they're available in Canada anymore?

cybersdorf · 6 Nov 2005, 23:39 (Ref:1453762)

I have driven a Niva (fine off-roader but a real 4x4, not a sissyboy SUV) and a Samara (alright if you don't expect too much - mine was a Baltic, built by Valmet in Finland so put together somwhat better than the Togliatti cars).

alfan · 6 Nov 2005, 23:49 (Ref:1453765)

Lada 2107 was actually one of the best cars in eastern block - with dynamic engines and better suspension than for example Polish Fiat 125p. And VFTS, 160hp rally version absolutely rocks !

cybersdorf · 7 Nov 2005, 02:34 (Ref:1453814)

The VFTS as a rally car is superb to watch; a few still run in Hungary and come across the border for rallies sometimes. Our very own Rudi Stohl (dad of WRC driver MAnfred Stohl) used to do the East African Safari with Ladas. Great car. But sadly not suitable for WTCC.

racer69 · 7 Nov 2005, 06:50 (Ref:1453883)

I've drive a Niva and have a Samara (not registered thoguh).

The Niva is a very good motor car. The Samara was the victim of alot of bad stories from the motoring press, but i never found too overly much wrong with it (having Peter Brock endorse and tune the Samara's in Australia helped a little)

nau_jr · 7 Nov 2005, 08:55 (Ref:1453941)

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Originally Posted by kmchow

But isn't the chairman now being arrested and tried for tax invasion?

Mikhail Khodorkovsky - chairmain of Yukos (not Lukoil!)

**FIRE** · 7 Nov 2005, 12:52 (Ref:1454120)

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Originally Posted by racer69

(having Peter Brock endorse and tune the Samara's in Australia helped a little)

Serious?

Didn't know LADA cars were sold outside Europe and (former) Communist countries.

j_t_8_8_8 · 7 Nov 2005, 16:09 (Ref:1454319)

On the WTCC Site there is the official launce of the new Lada for the championship; the car is the same appeared in some pictures a few posts ago

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Last Friday, at the Moscow Sport-Motor-Tuning exhibition, Russia’s biggest car manufacturer LADA Avtovaz launched their project to compete in the FIA World Touring Car Championship from the next season.
During a press conference at the LADA stand, Avtovaz Chief Designer Engineer Vladimir Guba and representative from the German Mtec Sport team presented to the Russian media the first prototype of the LADA 21106 in Super 2000 technical specifications.
In his speech, Mr Guba confirmed that the WTCC project is underway. Some aerodynamic tests are already taking place at the factory in Togliatti and construction of the racing cars’ chassis will begin soon.
LADA will race two 21106 cars in the 2006 season but they will switch to the new Priora from 2007.

nau_jr · 7 Nov 2005, 16:25 (Ref:1454331)

a few weeks ago i privatly talked with AutoVAZ work driver Sergey Nuzhdin. He said this project inspired mostly from German side (MTEC). Also he confirmed, that from 2007 will be introduced car, based on new Priora model, but this will happen, if new model will be homologated (AFAIR, before car can raced, the basic model should be manufactured 25.000 in number).

**Dani Filth** · 7 Nov 2005, 16:59 (Ref:1454367)

so we will see the 2110 in 2006 right ?? .. they'll be my new "favorites" .. with no factory alfas

HJC · 7 Nov 2005, 21:16 (Ref:1454649)

The sideskirts aren't allowed by S2000-rules so this isn't the car we'll be seeing on the grid next year. Already this project seems more promising then the Skoda and Brilliance attempts...

kmchow · 8 Nov 2005, 05:29 (Ref:1454925)

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Originally Posted by HJC

The sideskirts aren't allowed by S2000-rules so this isn't the car we'll be seeing on the grid next year. Already this project seems more promising then the Skoda and Brilliance attempts...

I was under the impression there were partially built S2000 spec Brilliance race cars? But funding for their construction quickly dried up? Then the scandal, etc...??

What about the Skoda, how far did that program get?

Hazard · 12 Nov 2005, 21:39 (Ref:1459156)

Having just looked at the car, glad to see Lada keep with tradition by keeping their designs 20 years behind the rest of the world

Isn't that just a Ford Sierra!

HJC · 15 Nov 2005, 21:22 (Ref:1461683)

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Originally Posted by kmchow

I was under the impression there were partially built S2000 spec Brilliance race cars? But funding for their construction quickly dried up? Then the scandal, etc...??

What about the Skoda, how far did that program get?

The Brilliance cars we got to see were roadgoing versions with some decals on it I believe.

Skoda program was 2 (or 3) years ago I believe. Private team showed a demo version of the car (Skoda Superb) and even announced 2 drivers. Haven't heard much about since then.

**Dani Filth** · 15 Nov 2005, 22:15 (Ref:1461727)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

Having just looked at the car, glad to see Lada keep with tradition by keeping their designs 20 years behind the rest of the world

Isn't that just a Ford Sierra!

hey . don't you make fun of my favorite 2006 car

i belive the Skoda Superb raced in some local races . but i'm not sure .

to bad the Brilliance cars didn;t actually appear

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