Lada to race in WTCC from 2006 - Page 3

kmchow · 16 Nov 2005, 06:44 (Ref:1461990)

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Originally Posted by HJC

The Brilliance cars we got to see were roadgoing versions with some decals on it I believe.

I thought that John Batchelor said the cars were under construction, but the process slow as parts were slow to arrive. As well, Brilliance was going to do more research/development on the cars to mount an '06 campaign? OTOH, I guess they can R&D on a computer model?

***Chris Y*** · 16 Nov 2005, 09:06 (Ref:1462073)

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Originally Posted by kmchow

I thought that John Batchelor said the cars were under construction

He said a lot of things...

redshoes · 16 Nov 2005, 13:34 (Ref:1462272)

I'm led to believe that at least one car, possibly two were under construction at VLR but umm... "disapeared" around the time Vic was arrested. Now doubt they'll turn up in a barn somewhere eventually.

**FIRE** · 16 Nov 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1462370)

Didn't Menards take over the Brilliance project?

BTW Is the Menards facility in UK sold to Aguri Suziki/Preston?

kipper · 16 Nov 2005, 17:38 (Ref:1462421)

I thought that Menards provided engineering support to Brilliance after the collapse of VLR, but didn't actually take over the project. GrandPrix.com reported that Super Aguri had acquired the Leafield facility.

cybersdorf · 17 Nov 2005, 22:59 (Ref:1463597)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

hey . don't you make fun of my favorite 2006 car

The Ford Sierra?

Mackmot · 24 Nov 2005, 20:20 (Ref:1469575)

I just read in Marketing that Lada has been handed to the state exprt agency which is part of the military. Apparently all the director of AutoVAZ were sacked and the members of the export agency have replaced them.

How will that effect the WTCC effort?

**FIRE** · 24 Nov 2005, 20:28 (Ref:1469588)

Poetin playing power play again?

cybersdorf · 24 Nov 2005, 20:57 (Ref:1469634)

All it means is they'll have a very disciplined pit crew.

Shawn · 24 Nov 2005, 20:59 (Ref:1469636)

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Originally Posted by Valker

Lada show car doesn't look too much S2000:

http://www.racing1.de/web/tw_em/arti...wsID=9380&sid=
http://www.ladanews.ru/cgi-bin/viewi...d=IMG&id=43912

It looks as though it's just crashed into Halfords

Sorry, British joke

On second thoughts it appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down

cybersdorf · 24 Nov 2005, 21:32 (Ref:1469658)

At least now we know where the British Leyland design department ended up

Joe Taylor · 27 Nov 2005, 12:07 (Ref:1471286)

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Originally Posted by Shawn

It looks as though it's just crashed into Halfords

Sorry, British joke

On second thoughts it appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down

With that design, it should come with a stupidly large stereo and nitrous

Valker · 9 Dec 2005, 23:07 (Ref:1480891)

Does anyone know if the 2-litre engine used in Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC car is actually the same Opel C20XE unit as in Lada 110 (VAZ 21106)?

AFAIK Chevy engine is a Holden made GM "Family II" motor but does it differ from old Opel version?

And if it's the very same engine, will FIA allow larger valves and higher compression ratio to Lada too (as they did for Chevy in Macau)?

E46 · 9 Dec 2005, 23:15 (Ref:1480906)

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Originally Posted by Valker

And if it's the very same engine, will FIA allow larger valves and higher compression ratio to Lada too (as they did for Chevy in Macau)?

FIA will allow if car isn´t fast enough, like happened with Chevy at Valencia and Macau.

racer69 · 10 Dec 2005, 03:08 (Ref:1480991)

Anymore news on their entry to the series?

Valker · 10 Dec 2005, 05:57 (Ref:1481010)

I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but apparently there'll be an american driver! This doesn't sound very clever idea while Lada isn't sold in US and americans aren't very interested on WTCC. How ever they have hired a marketing agency that thinks so:
http://www.mackeymarketing.com/LADAWTCC.htm

**FIRE** · 10 Dec 2005, 12:53 (Ref:1481142)

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Originally Posted by Valker

I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but apparently there'll be an american driver! This doesn't sound very clever idea while Lada isn't sold in US and americans aren't very interested on WTCC. How ever they have hired a marketing agency that thinks so:
http://www.mackeymarketing.com/LADAWTCC.htm

A possible American driver was already mentioned at the launch.
IMO a strange decision because Lada isn't sold in US and there is also no US WTCC race.

kmchow · 10 Dec 2005, 18:55 (Ref:1481309)

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Originally Posted by Valker

I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but apparently there'll be an american driver! This doesn't sound very clever idea while Lada isn't sold in US and americans aren't very interested on WTCC. How ever they have hired a marketing agency that thinks so:
http://www.mackeymarketing.com/LADAWTCC.htm

I assume the eventual plan for Lada is to return to the US. When that will happen is another story. I guess if there is a US driver, perhaps that will generate more publicity for the WTCC and Lada. In NA, the WTCC coverage largely revolves around Zanardi and his success in racing a BMW. OTOH, I don't see doesn't Chevrolet make use of the WTCC Lancetti program in it's NA advertising??

There was talk about Alfa Romeo coming back to NA sometime in '07-'99, possibly distributed by GM?
There was talk about Yugo coming back to? But for some reason, I wonder why hasn't VW snapped Yugo up?

Hazard · 10 Dec 2005, 19:42 (Ref:1481331)

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Originally Posted by kmchow

OTOH, I don't see doesn't Chevrolet make use of the WTCC Lancetti program in it's NA advertising??

They don't sell Lacetti's in America do they? As for brand awareness, maybe they'll wait till the cars are at least regularly in the top eight before they brag about it.

E46 · 10 Dec 2005, 23:05 (Ref:1481408)

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Originally Posted by Hazard

They don't sell Lacetti's in America do they? As for brand awareness, maybe they'll wait till the cars are at least regularly in the top eight before they brag about it.

Isn´t Lacetti named like Optra in NA?

cybersdorf · 10 Dec 2005, 23:19 (Ref:1481415)

The Lacetti programme is geared toward the European market (and run by Chevrolet Europe, in order to popularise the new brand) so Chevy N/A probably couldn't care less.

alfan · 11 Dec 2005, 10:39 (Ref:1481560)

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Originally Posted by Valker

Does anyone know if the 2-litre engine used in Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC car is actually the same Opel C20XE unit as in Lada 110 (VAZ 21106)?

It's hard to say. It can be C20XE, but it can be also ex-Daewoo engine as well. They had quite decent 2.0 16v DOHC engines in Nubiras and Leganzas.

On the other hand, those Daewoo engines were probably also based on old GM units. Daewoo and GM used to cooperate a lot in the 80's and 90's.

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Originally Posted by kmchow

There was talk about Alfa Romeo coming back to NA sometime in '07-'99, possibly distributed by GM

Yes, but you know how many different plans Alfa Romeo lately has...

**FIRE** · 11 Dec 2005, 11:16 (Ref:1481584)

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Originally Posted by alfan

It's hard to say. It can be C20XE, but it can be also ex-Daewoo engine as well. They had quite decent 2.0 16v DOHC engines in Nubiras and Leganzas.

Nubira = Lacetti

alfan · 11 Dec 2005, 11:42 (Ref:1481602)

But there's no 2.0 engine in offer - at least in Europe. Biggest is 1.8.

BTW while checking this I realised, there no a word about WTCC program on Polish Chevrolet site...

kmchow · 12 Dec 2005, 01:19 (Ref:1481993)

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Originally Posted by cybersdorf

The Lacetti programme is geared toward the European market (and run by Chevrolet Europe, in order to popularise the new brand) so Chevy N/A probably couldn't care less.

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Originally Posted by E46

Isn´t Lacetti named like Optra in NA?

Yes, the Lancetti is sold in NA as the Chevy Optra. For me, it seems like such a waste NOT to use their WTCC program. They could do those old Vauxhall picture advertising of a customer washing his car, split paned with the BTCC version of the same car on the right. Alternatively, they could use pictures of the WTCC Lancetti b/c the cars only say "Chevrolet", they don't mention anything about the Lancetti.

OTOH, Chevy NA probably care more about promoting their Chevrolet Cobalt (based on the European Astra).

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