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Old 12 Jul 2004, 12:23 (Ref:1034085)   #51
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Well, lets see...

Melbourne - Q3, messes start, gets 5th beaten by Ralf
Bahrain - Q3 13th beaten by Ralf
Imola - tries MS outside at Tosa, runs Ralf onto grass and moans about MS - wow.
Monaco - hits MS behind safety car - whew
Nurburgring - takes out teammate on 1st corner - yipes
Montreal - outqualified and outraced by Ralf
Indy - start line debacle and a world record for the slowest run to the pits...no olympics for Juan
France - Q6 finshes 8th after 2 spins

Which ones did I miss??????

Hate to see him driving badly...
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 12:26 (Ref:1034089)   #52
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Bahrain would've been a podium if the gearbox hadn't failed.

No need to distort facts to fit your pre-determined conclusion.
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 13:39 (Ref:1034169)   #53
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Monaco - hits MS behind safety car - whew
Your idol locked brakes right in front of him with no possible avoiding areas, for Christ sake...
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 13:48 (Ref:1034177)   #54
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I didn't realise Michael was deeks' idol actually...

But don't let his version of events deflect the thread entirely.

As I said, I can understand Juan's comments, and even if he does whine a bit, at least he has something to say. I thought we wanted more characters, anyway? But, as I also said before, it's the entire Ferrari package that is out in front. The car, the tyres, the pit crew, the team management, the engineers and designers, the driver. Every element is essential. It is the whole package that amounts to near perfection, there is no weak link. Introduce a weak link by taking any one of those elements away and the package becomes beatable.
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 14:09 (Ref:1034207)   #55
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Blimey,

If you took away Ross Brawn you'd need a truck load of bananas to feed him! Or were you referring to something other than kidnapping.
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Blimey,

If you took away Ross Brawn you'd need a truck load of bananas to feed him! Or were you referring to something other than kidnapping.
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 14:12 (Ref:1034214)   #57
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Your idol locked brakes right in front of him with no possible avoiding areas, for Christ sake...
Sorry, I mistakenly thought that to drive F1, you should have good reflexes and a few brains (i.e. leave a safe distance between the leading car - especially with more than half a lap to go before a restart).

I notice much more selective memory when it comes to JPM ... hehe, each to their own. And the way the JPM fans quickly assume that, if you have a go at him, you are instantly an MS idol worshipper ... oh well, when they're off their medicine, anything can happen.
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 14:15 (Ref:1034219)   #58
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Bahrain would've been a podium if the gearbox hadn't failed.

No need to distort facts to fit your pre-determined conclusion.
Hmm, doubt it, but take it if you like - still leaves another 7 error riddled races that you didnt comment on - the argument was about him driving well - no distorting the fact that he HAS NOT.
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Sorry, I mistakenly thought that to drive F1, you should have good reflexes and a few brains (i.e....
...Not doing brake testing, sorry, heating their brakes, at F1 Season´s darkest spot (Monaco´s tunnel)
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So what now? Are people going to start griping about Monaco incident again?

YEah..ok it's MS's fault..it's really a brainless question...ANY MS vs JPM contacts is never JPM's fault..

satisfied? Now move on...
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Well the reasons why both (JPM & Sam) said this are pretty much nailed down on page 1 of this!

Is this now just a bun fight or is there anything else?
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Bun fight. Definitely.
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Old 12 Jul 2004, 15:23 (Ref:1034307)   #64
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Good idea.

Trying to bite on some tiny incidents thinking it would excuse JPM's current lack of solid results would be missing the picture.

JPM would probably, and he better be, develope more under the strict control of Ron. Maybe he'd watch his words too then. It'd be sad if his talents are wasted.
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