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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:29 (Ref:1032997)   #1
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:31 (Ref:1032999)   #2
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Well done to Kimi as welll.... Mac it seems have passed Bar as well with the new car... what a difference from the start of the season
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:33 (Ref:1033000)   #3
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Any info on the rest of the results, and the race?

I can't reach the chat room, and www.formula1.com's live timing doesn't work on this computer.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:35 (Ref:1033003)   #4
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1. Schu
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:37 (Ref:1033005)   #5
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:37 (Ref:1033006)   #6
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You have to say... if it werent for the safety car SCHU would have taken it by more than 20 secs.. once again some fantastic strategy by the Ferrari strategists
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:39 (Ref:1033010)   #7
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Another strategy game by the Ferrari team. Can't take it away from them. Mickey had pace even with a third more fuel and worn tyres! Definitely driver of the race.

Kimi's Macaroon was working very well but the Ferrari package is obviously the most efficient out there. Button couldn't live with RB. Its either outright power or aerodynamics.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:40 (Ref:1033012)   #8
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Well, there's a turn-up for the books.......

God I love these strategy laden events........
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a word for Fisi.... What a stunning drive!!! take him Frank!!
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:41 (Ref:1033016)   #10
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Wonderful results!

Not just because of a Ferrari win...but because we have a Mclaren back on the podium... Kimi fully deserves this wonderful result after the hell he had in the first half.

mclaren finally seem to put their car right, and matched expectations

Satisfying result overall.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:42 (Ref:1033017)   #11
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A huge step forward for Raikkonen and McLaren nonetheless, even if they cannot match the speed of Schumacher & Ferrari. Also very pleased to see Webber in the points again.
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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:52 (Ref:1033039)   #12
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a great race!....lots of scraps and well done to ms on win number 80....good to see mclaren back on form....fisi and webber drove excellent races...trulli's moment was a bit scary....
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trulli's moment was a bit scary....
OK, that takes the prize for "Understatement Of The Year" !!

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Old 11 Jul 2004, 13:59 (Ref:1033054)   #14
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a great race!....
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a great race!....
Thank god for that - don't think I could have coped with a race like last year when there was actually some overtaking and all that other boring stuff!!
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Huh? What were you watching?
sorry Peter, didn't realise that you missed some excellent adverts/commercials.
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Think they accidently tuned into the British Superbikes from Knockhill on the other channel? :confused:
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honestly, i really wonder why some of you even bother to turn on the tele to watch.....has it become a form of self-flagellation to complain about another "snooze fest"?.......no overtaking, races won on strategy alone, no excitement, i'd have been better off doing something else, blah blah blah, ad nauseum.......if it is so dull for some of you, why DO you bother to even watch?......there has to be better ways to fill in 2 hours on a sunday.......why put yourselves through such boredom?....
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why put yourselves through such boredom?....
because we are undying optimists and know that F1 was exciting (once) and keep hoping for a return to those days.

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While I don't think it was a great race, I also don't think it was as horribly dull as some of you would suggest. Sure Michael won again and thats dissapointing but they are fully deserving of their results. Kimi gave it a strong fight, and for this Mac fan it's heartening to see them back. Bad timing for Kimi to get stuck behind Sato, too bad he couldn't have thrown it off as he did earlier.
Sato may be quick and aggressive but he consistently screws it up. BAR also seem to have stalled in regards to their development. Button never looked to be a threat.
Williams as well seem to be suffering, but with all the personnel changes I imagine that is affecting their performance. Gene really has been underwhelming in his two race drives.
Nice race for Webber and Jag; sure wish Ford would enable them to develop that car at least a little.
Glad to see Trulli come out unscathed.
All in all a good race, not great but good. I noticed that there is another thread with a lot of moaning and groaning. Maybe this thread can be about the good quality's of the race and the other can be for the dissapointed fans.
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Too bad McLaren, Williams, Renault, BAR and Sauber cannot be as consistent as Ferrari. It almost seems as if they take turns to be competitive.
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wow Kimi really poured on the charge near the end, i thought Kimi might win again. great to see Maclaren back in form.
and another masterful drive and strategy of the ferrari squad
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honestly, i really wonder why some of you even bother to turn on the tele to watch.....has it become a form of self-flagellation to complain about another "snooze fest"?.......no overtaking, races won on strategy alone, no excitement, i'd have been better off doing something else, blah blah blah, ad nauseum.......if it is so dull for some of you, why DO you bother to even watch?......there has to be better ways to fill in 2 hours on a sunday.......why put yourselves through such boredom?....

Ooh er um. Nope I can't be @rsed.
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