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Old 12 Jul 2017, 14:59 (Ref:3750707)   #1
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F3 to LMP?

Hello,

I just found this auction of a Formula 3 car:

https://www.openbare-verkopen.be/vei...le-x-racewagen

It says, it can be converted to compete in the "Le Mans Series"

So...is it possible to convert a car into an LMP?! This can't be true, right? Otherwise I feel like I've missed something ...

(I guess it then would be an LMP2?)

Can anybody clarify this?
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All current generation LMPs are closed top, and they all have to be 2 seaters as well. Unless they're running it in VdeV or something, but it certainly can't be an LMP2 or LMP3.

LMP2 and LMP3 are only by approved manufacturers too.
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Yeah, if this is true, it must be an old LMP car.
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I have the answer for you; I don't know why the seller says it can be run in the "Le Mans Series" as it cannot, but I woudl guess he just thinks of "Le Mans Prototype" as a catch-all for sportsracers, or he simply knows nothing about what he has - which would be weird since the title correctly identifies the car.

That is not an F3 car - as the title notes, it's a Formula X car. Formula X was a failed attempt at a new mid-tier ladder championship in Europe in 2004(I think - might've been 2005). It died after only a single race weekend, IIRC.

The car was built by Van Diemen, at this point owned by Elan Motorsports Technologies. Elan took the chassis for Formula X and built a sports racer out of it - the Elan DP02 that you can occasionally see at SCCA events, and which runs in the IMSA Prototype Challenge.

Put simply, the car cannot be turned into anything that is, or ever was, Le Mans legal, but it can be turned into this:
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Thank you so much! I knew it couldn't be an LMP2 car or similar, I probably would've known that by now.

Really interesting story though. Especially that it died after just one single race weekend ... wow.

I also got linked to this which shows the possible transformation:

http://www.motorsportmarkt.de/show/r...formula-x.html
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Is it possible it died after two rounds?

Because I found videos of Monza and Spa, but that's about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esp_loD81Wg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEiUyO_WpU
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Is it possible it died after two rounds?

Because I found videos of Monza and Spa, but that's about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esp_loD81Wg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsEiUyO_WpU
I was never too clear on how long it lasted aside from less than it's full originally planned season. I was most commonly told only one weekend, but I was never able to confirm it.

I was also unaware until now that the series used the full-bodied version, as I'd understood it was the open-wheeled version that ran the series.
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