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Old 16 Jul 2017, 23:20 (Ref:3752046)   #91
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If such a thing as a perfect race tire/ compound exists surely some will use it well and other will not.
Generally think Pirelli are doing a good job this year though.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 23:32 (Ref:3752047)   #92
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Yes I second that, there has been less high deg than before and it's benefitted the sport
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 03:47 (Ref:3752058)   #93
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 10:30 (Ref:3752091)   #94
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Flat out for Locost too (or was when I was racing), if your testicles are large enough. Which is only about 105mph, still scary though.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 10:33 (Ref:3752092)   #95
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My God, what junk is that Pirelli tire.
Do they really think I want that kind of thrash on my car?
Thanks but no thanks, I'll buy a Michelin or a Dunlop instead.
Presumably a Ferrari fan? Since none of the other teams suffered the same issue, doesn't that sort of implies a problem with the car/team, not the tyre?

Pirelli have be making tyres since 1872. I'm pretty sure they know how to make them by now.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 11:10 (Ref:3752104)   #96
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Flat out for Locost too (or was when I was racing), if your testicles are large enough. Which is only about 105mph, still scary though.
I could do the old Copse flat out in my Mini Se7en in 1983 but this was less to do with my testicular dimensions and more to do with how slow my car was!
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 11:34 (Ref:3752106)   #97
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Presumably a Ferrari fan? Since none of the other teams suffered the same issue, doesn't that sort of implies a problem with the car/team, not the tyre?

Pirelli have be making tyres since 1872. I'm pretty sure they know how to make them by now.
No, not a Ferrari fan. I like Porsches though.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 12:31 (Ref:3752119)   #98
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No, not a Ferrari fan. I like Porsches though.
Me too. Specially Porsche cars from the 1960's - 2015 era. Some of, if not THE best handling cars ever produced!
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 15:10 (Ref:3752154)   #99
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Flat out for Locost too (or was when I was racing), if your testicles are large enough. Which is only about 105mph, still scary though.
I think I'd rather crash the F1 than the Locost though!
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 11:36 (Ref:3752355)   #100
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I think I'd rather crash the F1 than the Locost though!
Yup, although being tee-boned on the exit of Maggots after a spin (not my fault) resulted only in a sore neck.

It is amazing how robust F1 cars are, so much more than all other racing cars. Some of the classic race cars are death traps.
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 14:26 (Ref:3752405)   #101
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I wonder how Grosjean feels a bit of a plonker now. After criticising Hamilton in quali, during the race he just turns in on Ericsson ruining his own race. People in glass houses
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Old 18 Jul 2017, 19:02 (Ref:3752498)   #102
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Yeah cos Michelin were brilliant. Especially at the US GP in 2005.

Pirelli were slaughtered in some quarters for producing tyres that were too durable earlier this year...
I reckon the durability of the chosen Pirelli compounds was quite appropriate this particular race. Vettel pitted quite early and probably both Ferrari's didn't have the best set up to make the tyres last. Silverstone is a demanding track in that regard, hence teams need to adjust.
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Old 19 Jul 2017, 02:37 (Ref:3752657)   #103
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I reckon the durability of the chosen Pirelli compounds was quite appropriate this particular race. Vettel pitted quite early and probably both Ferrari's didn't have the best set up to make the tyres last. Silverstone is a demanding track in that regard, hence teams need to adjust.

Directly from Pirelli:

"Amidst media speculation that Ferrari was at fault for leaving its drivers out on the softs for too long, Isola said the finger should not be pointed at the Italian team." https://www.pitpass.com/59691/Pirell...ures-unrelated

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Old 19 Jul 2017, 09:27 (Ref:3752711)   #105
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"Amidst media speculation that Ferrari was at fault for leaving its drivers out on the softs for too long, Isola said the finger should not be pointed at the Italian team." https://www.pitpass.com/59691/Pirell...ures-unrelated
They are still investigating. What they're saying is it's too early to definitely point the finger at Ferrari.

Personally, as said, I think it's still probable that it is related to stint length and set up (together with the design of the tire of course). We'll have to await to conclusions of the investigation to be sure.
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