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Old 31 Oct 2014, 21:42 (Ref:3470344)   #16
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It's being renamed anyway. So even if you believe that V8Supercar = 4 doors only, it's a moot point.

Perhaps in 2017 <Insert New Name Here> will have 2 door and 4 door cars. I have my money on the words 'Touring Car' returning to the series title so I think that could work.
I would prefer that V8SC remains 4 door... much more room to put branding on to start with, and the cars being raced are volume models, not hero cars.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 22:10 (Ref:3470360)   #17
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I would prefer that V8SC remains 4 door... much more room to put branding on to start with, and the cars being raced are volume models, not hero cars.
Why does it matter what car they use?

It's not like you can go down to your local Nissan or Volvo dealership and buy a rear wheel drive V8 now?

For me there is far to much hanging on to the past (V8SC era) for the series to make the steps it needs.

COTF for me has been great in some aspects but on the other hand a big fail as they didn't push the boundaries and stayed safe with engine configurations etc.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 22:57 (Ref:3470372)   #18
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2 door coupes, different engine configurations why not just adopt the rules from someone else and make the start up costs cheaper?

Why build something new when there is plenty of options on the world scene already?

What is the cost difference between GT3 and DTM/JGTC?
This. I reckon GT3 is the go.
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Old 31 Oct 2014, 23:47 (Ref:3470387)   #19
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This. I reckon GT3 is the go.
Quite possibly.........if people want high power, large capacity engines racing in the future they will most likely have to look at cars that are out of most peoples price bracket.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 00:51 (Ref:3470399)   #20
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Yeah, but who do they sell the series to first and foremost? The fans or the competitors?

They are cheaper to buy as a going concern, compared to a current V8SC, brand new ready to hit the track. Plus you get the technical backup from the constructor, regardless of whether you're competing against them. On top of this, R&D is global, spread over dozens of chassis, as opposedto as as little as three, or as many as 9.

Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
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Yeah, but who do they sell the series to first and foremost? The fans or the competitors?

They are cheaper to buy as a going concern, compared to a current V8SC, brand new ready to hit the track. Plus you get the technical backup from the constructor, regardless of whether you're competing against them. On top of this, R&D is global, spread over dozens of chassis, as opposedto as as little as three, or as many as 9.

Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
are they cheaper to buy? my observation harder to fix also.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 02:12 (Ref:3470415)   #22
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Good enough reason to clean up the driving standards a little.
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Good enough reason to clean up the driving standards a little.
the fans already cry enough when it comes to penalties
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 10:12 (Ref:3470469)   #24
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Does Tony Quinn hold any actual 'rights' to GT3 racing in Aus/NZ?
I guess it depends on his deal with CAMS? I'd think his deal is more about using the "Aus GT Championship" title, he could run the series with any rules he likes, not necessarily GT3.

Once upon a time a promoter could just run a race for a class of car, be it a touring car, sports sedan etc etc...

Obviously thats how we wound up with AMSCAR alongside the ATCC, you had the Australian Production Car Championship as well as the Amaroo Production Car series as well as the Calder Bob Jane production car series, the myriad of localised Sports Sedan Championships etc...

If V8SC decided to adopt GT3 regs, i don't think they would be stop...... i find this scenario highly unlikely though
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What about using the ATCC as the name?
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Old 4 Nov 2014, 00:23 (Ref:3471409)   #26
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Good enough reason to clean up the driving standards a little.
Compared to yesteryear the driving standards are much improved.

Frosty's move at Surfers would have barely raised an eyebrow , but these days he cops a penalty.
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Old 4 Nov 2014, 00:38 (Ref:3471412)   #27
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If V8SC manage to really nail the new regs, do you guys think that there's any possibility in them being picked up by international series?

Would be great if there were a few top line series O/S using the regs, possibly even with different bodyshapes & engines, then we could get back to the good old days of having some true international entries for the Enduro Cup, or part there of. And also some of our top teams going to compete in major races O/S.
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Old 4 Nov 2014, 01:14 (Ref:3471416)   #28
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Doubtful, V8SC is a big fish in a little pond here, rest of the world is a big big big pond with lots and lots of other fish all with their own agendas
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If V8SC manage to really nail the new regs, do you guys think that there's any possibility in them being picked up by international series?
The thing working in favour of this happening is that the Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore will ultimately not be the front line weapons of those manufacturers to race in the V8SC series.

When the S60 runs against the E Class, against the Altima, against the Insignia and the Mondeo... you could very well be talking about a race in the USA or Germany or the UK as a class here.. except (hopefully) they will retain V8 noise here...
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Talk of the new WRC regs throwing in some sort of carbon tub to protect drivers, wonder will V8SC go down that road too?
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