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5 Feb 2016, 06:27 (Ref:3611793)
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How does it spread their engineering costs? I'm genuinely baffled
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5 Feb 2016, 06:38 (Ref:3611796)
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How does it spread their engineering costs? I'm genuinely baffled
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I'd say that what Pecky means is that the cost of engineering staff can be spread across more cars so the cost per car (and therefore the cost borne by the V8 team) is reduced.
In a similar manner, the amortised cost of all the engineering plant, equipment, software etc would also be spread across more cars, meaning less cost per car as above.
Thinking about it, the same could probably be said of all overhead / fixed expenses for the business.
On top of that, having more cars and needing more consumables (such as K nuts, rod ends etc) could allow better deals to be done meaning that again, the cost per car would decrease.
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5 Feb 2016, 09:28 (Ref:3611830)
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I get that, but why go gt racing then? If its just to spread the cost why not another supercar
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5 Feb 2016, 10:26 (Ref:3611837)
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I probably did use the wrong term there, what i meant is that they have staff they need more work for and a building and machinery that needs cars in it. The ability to work in another series gives them opportunity to utilise those staff and the assets. I labeled those items as engineering which is partly correct but it is broader
They downsized because they want there key people to concentrate on two cars only in v8s especially on race weekends , but this still allows them to use their other vast resources that would be under utilised as well. and yes i know that sometimes GT3 is on at the same weekend as v8s, but not at the same time
GT# racing isnt cheap though so they will be looking for someone to fund it
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5 Feb 2016, 11:02 (Ref:3611854)
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I get that, but why go gt racing then? If its just to spread the cost why not another supercar
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Dunno - that'll be an internal team decision. There ARE limited RECs and maybe they didn't want to run development series, or simply liked the idea of running something different to what they already have.
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5 Feb 2016, 17:21 (Ref:3612049)
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Cheers boys
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6 Feb 2016, 03:04 (Ref:3612268)
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ok looking at this from Gen2 how long dose the Holden factory-back the team ?
http://www.motorsport.com/australian...orsche-671749/
Walkinshaw to run factory-backed Porsche
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7 Feb 2016, 06:55 (Ref:3612683)
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TWR used to run factory Jags in different series alongside running factory Rovers & then Holdens in other series
They even used to run factory backed Rovers, Mazdas and Audi's in the same series competing against eachother.
I don't think this Porsche deal would affect their V8SC HRT program decisions in anyway
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7 Feb 2016, 10:04 (Ref:3612745)
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There is/was chat that Mr Lowndes had an offer from DJRTP for 2016, and turned them down...
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Given that it was announced back in March 2015 that Lowndes had signed a contract extension with Triple 8 until the end of 2017, seems unlikely remembering this was before Ambrose had bailed out and it was only later in the year that DJRTP decided to return to a 2 car operation. Guess they could have offered to buy Lowndes' contract out, but expect Roland Dane would have commanded many millions before agreeing to a release.
And while every man has his price, get the feeling an extra 20% or whatever in remuneration wouldn't be a prime motivator for Lowndes. He spent a few years in the wilderness at 00 Motorsport and FPR while they found their feet, and probably has little desire to do so again.
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7 Feb 2016, 10:14 (Ref:3612747)
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TWR used to run factory Jags in different series alongside running factory Rovers & then Holdens in other series.
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When Brock drove for Volvo in Super Touring in 1996, this was frowned upon by the brass at Holden, yet they didn't seem to have any problems with TWR running Volvo's BTCC program or being involved with Benneton Ford in Formula 1 at the same time.
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7 Feb 2016, 21:54 (Ref:3612879)
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Originally Posted by anthony81901
When Brock drove for Volvo in Super Touring in 1996, this was frowned upon by the brass at Holden, yet they didn't seem to have any problems with TWR running Volvo's BTCC program or being involved with Benneton Ford in Formula 1 at the same time.
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And of course TWR ran the factory Volvo attack on the 1998 AMP Bathurst 1000, which featured them competing against a factory backed Holden too!
The Brock thing was probably more to do with the fact it was Peter Brock himself, and wasn't this the catalyst for Holden actually signing Brock to a contract with the company, as previously he didn't have one (just with Mobil and the HRT race team itself?)
I really can't see Holden having a drama with WP running a Porsche, especially as GM has little involvement in GT3 racing on a world scale anyway.
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7 Feb 2016, 22:12 (Ref:3612885)
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/motorspo...903db796235916
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“I think it’s totally inappropriate that Walkinshaws are racing in that championship. It’s not their core business. It’s outrageous,” says Roland Dane, head of the title winning Triple Eight Race Engineering operation.
“There is no enough money to make it stack up. And I don’t think it’s healthy for Australian GT racing.”
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Roland not happy others have piece of cake before him.
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7 Feb 2016, 22:15 (Ref:3612889)
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Originally Posted by Compromised
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More likely its posturing with Holden, to perhaps become the official Holden Racing Team at some point..
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7 Feb 2016, 22:56 (Ref:3612903)
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Or maybe Roland likes Porsches
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8 Feb 2016, 00:11 (Ref:3612919)
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or maybe he is right. Depends what the goal for GT3 is in Australia.
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