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Old 7 Oct 2016, 14:42 (Ref:3678137)   #16
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Old 9 Oct 2016, 05:03 (Ref:3678532)   #17
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Are STCC ruin it´s trademark?

STCC (Scandinavian Touring Car Championship) don´t need a franchise agreement with promotor World sporting Consulting LTD (WSC).

STCC do not need for a new WSC franchise name like; TCR Scandinavian.

STCC have since 1996 a good brand in the name Scandinavian Touring Car Championship, this brand are today 20 years old. STCC AB also have longtime agreement of national championship with Swedish Automobile Sports Federation and the Swedish Sports Confederation.

STCC AB as a car race organizer needs to break the agreement, to get more freedom with the rules, to get more commercial with more car brands. They need to adapt FIA TCN2 rules and new National rules for national built cars. They may also use the Swedish Automobile Sports Federation (SBF) for homologation/certification of cars at national level. If STCC AB are going to have 25-30 cars on the grid, they need more car brands to take part in the STCC-serie, than Promotor World Sport Consulting can deliver.

The teams, drivers in STCC cannot accept the loose of car brands like BMW, Mercedes, Saab, Dacia, Nissan Chevrolet, Volvo, (2 door cars) and car different car models of other car brands.

This change does not affect, the use of international TCR-car for teams/drivers. The teams and driver how will drive in other TCR-series and other racing, can do as they like. The important her are that the STCC AB as a racing organizer are totally free from agreements like that with promotor World Sporting Consulting LTD.

STCC AB needs to do this for this for Scandinavian teams, Scandinavian drivers and Scandinavian motorsport industry. STCC AB can not make it more expensive for Scandinavian teams, Scandinavian drivers and Scandinavian motorsport industry when they forcing them to follow a private company’s rules (WSC). Swedish Automobile Sport Federation (SBF) and FIA (Fédération Internationale de Iáutomobile) have the rules to make STCC racing cheaper at national level.
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Old 9 Oct 2016, 09:08 (Ref:3678605)   #18
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but it wasn't build for STCC, it was build and raced initially for the short lived North American Touring Car championship (lasted just for 1996-1997) after one of the cars was brought and raced as works car in STCC
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0150_large.jpg
That's the one! I always thought Engström built that car for some reason, then again I was about 10 at the time so maybe I can be excused..
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 07:01 (Ref:3679228)   #19
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Buy a TCR/TCN2 car

When you are going to buy a new TCR/TCN2 car, you buy it from a manufacture or a tuner.

Seat Leon from http://www.seat-sport.com/

Volkswagen Golf from http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=1994

Honda Civic http://www.jasmotorsport.com/en/product/honda-civic-type-r-tcr/8d1a7613-8cb3-4da7-a93f-4518c36e18d8/

Opel Astra http://www.jasmotorsport.com/en/product/honda-civic-type-r-tcr/8d1a7613-8cb3-4da7-a93f-4518c36e18d8/

STCC AB or any TCR organizer or World Sporting Consulting Ltd are not involved at all when you do business with dieses dealers. You can buy parts and help from dieses dealers too.

As a driver or team you don´t need a contract or agreement with World Sporting Consulting Ltd.
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 08:09 (Ref:3679236)   #20
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Ehm, your point was pretty clear already. No need to keep on repeating it
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 09:12 (Ref:3679245)   #21
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Don´t feed the troll.
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 16:34 (Ref:3679338)   #22
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About the silly season in STCC for the switch to TCR next year these are some rumors, and facts.

PWR Racing is expected to field at least three SEAT, with up to six SEAT rumoured from the team which might be necessary to get some cars on the grid.

A driver in Clio Cup will take the step up to STCC in a VW Golf that will be run by Lestrup Racing.

Westcoast Racing has said they will not enter STCC next year. They will run race operations for Volvo which are rumoured to be a TTA-Volvo in Swedish GT.

Finnish LMS Racing might enter 1-2 SEAT in STCC next year.

Mattias Andersson does not have a drive or car for the team confirmed. He has expressed an interest if a budget and a car can be found.

NIKA Racing is rumoured to be working on 1-2 Opels for STCC next year, but they have a history of tight budgets and big plans that not always come through.

Right now potentially six cars:

3 PWR SEAT
1 VW Golf
2 LMS SEAT

With another 3 SEAT we might see 9 cars on the grid, growing to 11 if the plans for NIKA Racing and Mattias Andersson come to anything.

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Old 11 Oct 2016, 16:52 (Ref:3679342)   #23
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Something tells me you're not a SEAT fan
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 17:00 (Ref:3679343)   #24
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Something tells me you're not a SEAT fan

SEAT with a : s turns into a hesitant smiley apparently.... that is what you get for trying to be grammatically correct.

But I think anyone wanting to follow STCC next year needs to like SEAT
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Old 11 Oct 2016, 17:15 (Ref:3679345)   #25
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Ehm, your point was pretty clear already. No need to keep on repeating it
The guy has been on Swedish boards with several different user names posting the exact same stuff.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:07 (Ref:3679475)   #26
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Crysler in TCR/TCN2.

Today Chrysler means Fiat Chrylser Automobiles.

Cars for TCR/TCN2;

Alfa Romeo Gulietta https://youtu.be/TH75W-ltYbI

Fiat Tipo

Dodge Dart https://youtu.be/UlYMMjYqFQk

TCR and TCN2 have allowed engine change in the regulation.

The new 2 liter turbo MultAir engine from Fiat Chrysler Automobile are a good engine for TCR/TCN2 racing.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:28 (Ref:3679478)   #27
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This discussion are not new in STCC!

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The guy has been on Swedish boards with several different user names posting the exact same stuff.

I have seen a big document about Swedish racing and I am not alone!

STCC AB and other racing people have also seen it!

In touring car racing today, there are many people talking how you can make racing cheaper. If you buy or have a franchise agreement, you must pay for it.
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 08:33 (Ref:3679481)   #28
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About the silly season in STCC for the switch to TCR next year these are some rumors, and facts.

PWR Racing is expected to field at least three SEAT, with up to six SEAT rumoured from the team which might be necessary to get some cars on the grid.

A driver in Clio Cup will take the step up to STCC in a VW Golf that will be run by Lestrup Racing.

Westcoast Racing has said they will not enter STCC next year. They will run race operations for Volvo which are rumoured to be a TTA-Volvo in Swedish GT.

Finnish LMS Racing might enter 1-2 SEAT in STCC next year.

Mattias Andersson does not have a drive or car for the team confirmed. He has expressed an interest if a budget and a car can be found.

NIKA Racing is rumoured to be working on 1-2 Opels for STCC next year, but they have a history of tight budgets and big plans that not always come through.

Right now potentially six cars:

3 PWR SEAT
1 VW Golf
2 LMS SEAT

With another 3 SEAT we might see 9 cars on the grid, growing to 11 if the plans for NIKA Racing and Mattias Andersson come to anything.
Brovallen with the Ford Focus?
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Old 12 Oct 2016, 10:15 (Ref:3679496)   #29
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Brovallen with the Ford Focus?
If they find a driver with a budget anything is possible, but not likely.

They had one car this year, and the driver struggled massively for budget and in the end they had to cancel the final weekend after having cancelled sessions throughout the season. It is now a legal matter for the team to try and get what they are owed.

And today STCC released that they will merge Clio Cup with STCC/TCR next year so the signs are that there are few entries ready.
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http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/...lass-for-2017/
STCC merges TCR and Clio Cup in main class for 2017.
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