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Old 12 Jun 2017, 03:19 (Ref:3740395)   #76
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Vettel get's this round (and will every round for the rest of the season).

This is not a contest. Even if Raikkonen has a sniff of finishing ahead of Vettel, Ferrari will pull the plug. Raikkonen had "brake issues", and ran wide. Guess who was behind?
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 12:59 (Ref:3740507)   #77
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Vettel get's this round (and will every round for the rest of the season).

This is not a contest. Even if Raikkonen has a sniff of finishing ahead of Vettel, Ferrari will pull the plug. Raikkonen had "brake issues", and ran wide. Guess who was behind?
You're right. Ferrari sabotaged Kimis brakes pre-race because they predicted Vettel would mess up the start and lose his front wing.
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 16:32 (Ref:3740564)   #78
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lol

to be honest though, even if Kimi didnt have any issues he would have yielded the position and points. it is the right thing to do when your team mate is fighting for a title.

the guy who the track is named after would have done the same thing...some might say its a Ferrari thing but its also a very Canadian thing to do!
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 16:57 (Ref:3740585)   #79
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You're right. Ferrari sabotaged Kimis brakes pre-race because they predicted Vettel would mess up the start and lose his front wing.
That's kind of a stupid thing to say, it's very easy to pretend to have a brake issue if you want to switch positions.
I just wish Ferrari were more honest about it, and that the rest of the teams, media and fans stop being so pretend shocked about team orders like it's some kind of a faux pas.
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 17:00 (Ref:3740586)   #80
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That's kind of a stupid thing to say, it's very easy to pretend to have a brake issue if you want to switch positions.
I just wish Ferrari were more honest about it, and the rest of the teams, media and fans stop being so pretend shocked about team orders like it's some kind of a faux pas.
So Kimi sailed off the track and was complaining on the radio about brake settings because he was acting?
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 17:03 (Ref:3740587)   #81
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I don't know what problems Kimi may or may not have had, I'm saying that in general it's easy to fake an issue if you need to switch, don't be so obtuse.
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 17:08 (Ref:3740591)   #82
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Errr, did you watch the race? It was pretty obvious what problems Kimi had. He sailed over the chicane barely slowing down and was on the radio shouting about how he had a problem. It was very clearly real, and very clearly serious. So again, we're either suggesting Ferrari sabotaged Kimi before the race, or Kimi was acting to pretend he had a problem.

It's very easy to fake problems. But this wasn't the case. That's not me being obtuse, that's me answering the ridiculous suggestion that this event was staged.

Good lord people will go to some lengths to defend King Kimi won't they. I love Kimi, but sometimes he just isn't that good, and sometime he's unlucky too.
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 17:27 (Ref:3740599)   #83
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Kimi had a genuine problem, and Vettel was on a mission after that pitstop. That's all there is to say
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Old 12 Jun 2017, 23:22 (Ref:3740702)   #84
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It was back to form. After Kimi's success at a pole, in Canada - Seb outraced him. I accept that Kimi's car was having problems, but Seb put in a stunning performance yesterday.
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Old 13 Jun 2017, 13:53 (Ref:3740870)   #85
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Even with Kimi's brake problems, nothing was going to stop Seb, he was on a mission
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 15:18 (Ref:3751828)   #86
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Today it was all about the Kimister. Sure - he could have been 2nd, but he was still on the podium. I think that was his best performance of the season.
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 15:21 (Ref:3751832)   #87
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Yep, the only consistent thing about Kimi is his inconsistency...
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Old 16 Jul 2017, 15:52 (Ref:3751861)   #88
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Great effort by Kimi today. He deserved that second place.
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Bad luck for Kimi, but at least he got a bit of luck back when Vettel's tyre. Certainly was his best drive of the season, obviously we won't see it from him every weekend, so it was nice to see more of the old Kimi while it lasted
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Old 28 Jul 2017, 19:48 (Ref:3755205)   #90
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I had some time to kill today at work, so did the math on how many points has Alonso scored on avrage during his time with Ferrari and the number is : 12.39.
The same thing for Vettel (in his 50 GPs for the team so far) is at 13.34 (and the number is even likely to further increase, as he tends to finish better than P4 recently).


Sorry I wasnt sure where to post this , but pretty telling stuff of the level Vettel performes at. Of course both him and Alonso have destroyed Kimi, there is no two ways about that.
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