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Old 29 Apr 2017, 01:33 (Ref:3729791)   #1
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With the ongoing financial issues with Ten, one of the things I have been asked is how will this affect V8s. Given that we see the events under Win naming on free to air with the Ten logo. Does this mean V8s are technically under Fox/Win now.I notice too in Queensland our channels used to have the 8s as win and the 5s as ten. Now it is 8s as ten and 5s as win. V8s are still under 5s so does that also point to a change that we didn't know about. With Ten and Win being linked to does this mean that the whole network 10/8 will fold or just one side.
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 01:53 (Ref:3729798)   #2
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Hard to say what would happen as of right now. Imo if ten ceased operations they should consider a switch to live streaming the events specified in their contract Foxtel contract, it's cheaper and can reach a much broader audience
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 02:05 (Ref:3729799)   #3
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Hard to say what would happen as of right now. Imo if ten ceased operations they should consider a switch to live streaming the events specified in their contract Foxtel contract, it's cheaper and can reach a much broader audience
The thing is about that is its not as good as people say it is. You can have good internet and still struggle with it. Depends on how they went about it I suppose
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 02:06 (Ref:3729800)   #4
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Don't they have to broadcast Bathurst on FTA under the law?
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 02:45 (Ref:3729808)   #5
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Don't they have to broadcast Bathurst on FTA under the law?
I think Bathurst, Sandown and Gold Coast all have to be broadcasted under law. Foxtel or Ten cant prevent it otherwise legal action by some TV network thing comes in to the channel (not V8s) I remember reading somewhere.
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If Ten went under, would 7 or 9 want to pay the current price that TEN does for the "backup" coverage?

Given Foxtel's interests in TEN, Network 10 having the rights fits in best with the current Foxtel Supercars deal, would they get the same co-operation out of 7 or 9?

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Given that we see the events under Win naming on free to air with the Ten logo. Does this mean V8s are technically under Fox/Win now.I notice too in Queensland our channels used to have the 8s as win and the 5s as ten. Now it is 8s as ten and 5s as win. V8s are still under 5s so does that also point to a change that we didn't know about. With Ten and Win being linked to does this mean that the whole network 10/8 will fold or just one side.
What happened here was that WIN for years had a content deal with the 9 Network. In mid-2016 they couldn't come to an agreement, so 9 did a content deal with SCA (who formerly took Network 10 programming). This then forced Network 10 and WIN to do a content deal, so programming on both stations effectively just swapped.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-2...eement/7437246

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Imo if ten ceased operations they should consider a switch to live streaming the events specified in their contract Foxtel contract, it's cheaper and can reach a much broader audience
Won't happen for two reasons

1. It can't happen by law for Bathurst, it must be shown FTA and have priority over PayTV coverage (hence why PayTV has to have ads in their coverage of this race)

2. It would be suicide to completely ditch FTA coverage for streaming.
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 02:55 (Ref:3729812)   #8
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If Ten went under, would 7 or 9 want to pay the current price that TEN does for the "backup" coverage?

Given Foxtel's interests in TEN, Network 10 having the rights fits in best with the current Foxtel Supercars deal, would they get the same co-operation out of 7 or 9?



What happened here was that WIN for years had a content deal with the 9 Network. In mid-2016 they couldn't come to an agreement, so 9 did a content deal with SCA (who formerly took Network 10 programming). This then forced Network 10 and WIN to do a content deal, so programming on both stations effectively just swapped.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-2...eement/7437246

The FTA TV deal for V8s is still with Network 10



Won't happen for two reasons

1. It can't happen by law for Bathurst, it must be shown FTA and have priority over PayTV coverage (hence why PayTV has to have ads in their coverage of this race)

2. It would be suicide to completely ditch FTA coverage for streaming.
I know it seems a risk I'm just putting the idea out there
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Old 29 Apr 2017, 03:12 (Ref:3729821)   #9
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All the while the newspapers are reporting that #10 is looking to buy test cricket to add to their existing BigBash and international coverage
I saw that too.
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Old 30 Apr 2017, 00:28 (Ref:3729981)   #10
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If Ten went under, would 7 or 9 want to pay the current price that TEN does for the "backup" coverage?

Given Foxtel's interests in TEN, Network 10 having the rights fits in best with the current Foxtel Supercars deal, would they get the same co-operation out of 7 or 9?
I'll go out on a limb - it's never going to happen. I think at worst 10 will become a place for FOXTEL to play old stuff or shows like Gogglebox & Pacific Heat & the sports they have to show on FTA by law.
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I'll go out on a limb - it's never going to happen. I think at worst 10 will become a place for FOXTEL to play old stuff or shows like Gogglebox & Pacific Heat & the sports they have to show on FTA by law.
Will Ten be bought out by Foxtel to become the free to air version of Fox. Seems that could happen or like you say, old shows. However if Ten does go what does that mean for the current shows, a lot will be screwed over.
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Pretty sure its against broadcast ownership laws for Foxtel to own a FTA network.
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Old 3 May 2017, 05:55 (Ref:3730676)   #13
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Pretty sure its against broadcast ownership laws for Foxtel to own a FTA network.
It is, majority owned anyway.

Didn't a law have to be changed before Foxtel could buy the minority share they have in Network Ten?
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A few facts
1Bathurst is the only Supercar race on the anti siphoning list.Albert Park and Phillip Island Moto GP are the only other motor sports events on that list.
2The coordination of ad break times on Ten/Foxtel during Albert Park and Bathurst has nothing to do with the list.It is part of the commercial arrangement between Ten and Foxtel for those events.Phillip Island Moto GP which is on the list is shown ad free on Foxtel.
3Media ownership laws mean Murdoch cannot increase his share of Ten above the current 15%.
4The network has only stayed on air because of a line of credit with the Commonwealth Bank which had to be personally guaranteed by the main shareholders.The bank has said it will no longer be willing to continue this arrangement when the current arrangement runs out in a month or two.The other shareholders except for Murdoch and possibly Gordon weren't willing to continue personal guarantee of Ten debt.
5Murdoch is only in this as he thought he saw a way of getting government to modify anti siphoning laws.Ten was to be a Trojan horse for Fox Sports.If he doesn't think this will happen he then has no interest in his 15%
6Ten shares are worth only 1% of what they were 5 years ago.There is no way back.In a world of streaming,pay tv etc it is not viable to have 3 commercial networks in Australia.The other 2 which aren't in great financial shape either would love Ten to fall over as their bottom line would improve.
Will Ten go off air?Yes,no,maybe.It is a real possibility.
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an announcement is expected today which may change many of those rules mentioned in the last few posts

the anti siphoning list is to be reduced (however Bathurst 1000 is expected to stay on it)
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