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Old 14 Jul 2017, 16:59 (Ref:3751227)   #271
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What good would it be letting Plato run in a different car. It might prove that there is a problem with his own car, but they already know that.

It won't tell them anything they didn't already know and won't go any way to fixing the problem
That was what the team suggested earlier this year - he'd get a run in another car. That was quietly shelved after Sutton closed the championship gap. If they are worried about hurting Suttons chances then there is another car in the team. Pay driver or not, it really isn't beyond the team to run it for a couple of free practice sessions.

Or maybe Jason isn't the star he once was, and isn't worth trying to hang onto.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 18:04 (Ref:3751241)   #272
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Spare chassis having work done over at Team HARD - https://twitter.com/tonygilham34/sta...51115400691714
Looks like the guy in the background is doing something to the Insignia too, Wonder what they will do with it.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 18:22 (Ref:3751246)   #273
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Pay driver or not, it really isn't beyond the team to run it for a couple of free practice sessions.
Drivers are only allowed to drive one chassis per weekend, so that can't happen. There's no reason why they couldn't have swapped during a test session though.
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 18:58 (Ref:3751253)   #274
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Looks like the guy in the background is doing something to the Insignia too, Wonder what they will do with it.
Erm I'm sure that's a 2013 photo. I stand to be corrected of course!
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Old 14 Jul 2017, 19:46 (Ref:3751262)   #275
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What good would it be letting Plato run in a different car. It might prove that there is a problem with his own car, but they already know that.

It won't tell them anything they didn't already know and won't go any way to fixing the problem
One of the most sensible post on here.

If he tries another car and goes better, what do they do then?

If he tries another car and doesn't go better, what do they do then?
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Old 15 Jul 2017, 06:11 (Ref:3751353)   #276
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One of the most sensible post on here.

If he tries another car and goes better, what do they do then?

If he tries another car and doesn't go better, what do they do then?
I think it is Plato who has the most to lose in swapping cars for a test.
As it currently stands, he can blame a bent chassis for his lack of results. If he goes quicker in another car then fine - he is proven right and pressure is on the team. If he is unable to go any quicker though it makes him the automatic No2 behind Sutton.
For BMR on the other hand, as it stands they have a car and driver combination challenging for the title. The result of Plato testing another car will either put pressure on them to fund a new car or admit that their highest profile driver is no longer competitive. They will lose reputation as a team either way.

So as long as Sutton is competitive BMR gain nothing in a car swap. And as long as there are public doubts about the chassis, Plato has an excuse to preserve his reputation.
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Old 15 Jul 2017, 06:44 (Ref:3751357)   #277
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I think it is Plato who has the most to lose in swapping cars for a test.
As it currently stands, he can blame a bent chassis for his lack of results. If he goes quicker in another car then fine - he is proven right and pressure is on the team. If he is unable to go any quicker though it makes him the automatic No2 behind Sutton.
For BMR on the other hand, as it stands they have a car and driver combination challenging for the title. The result of Plato testing another car will either put pressure on them to fund a new car or admit that their highest profile driver is no longer competitive. They will lose reputation as a team either way.

So as long as Sutton is competitive BMR gain nothing in a car swap. And as long as there are public doubts about the chassis, Plato has an excuse to preserve his reputation.
I do agree that Plato has the most to loose by trying another car, I also think that the pace difference between him and Sutton is not just down to a bent chassis.
However, I would think that if Plato's car is bent and that's the problem then BMR do lose credibility as a team as they're shown to be incapable of fielding a full set of competitive cars.
Plus, if it is the car and not Plato having lost his ability, by getting him into a car that's on the pace (as long as he's prepared to play the team game*), he could be Sutton's rear gunner and help take points off Ash's competitors for the title.
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Old 15 Jul 2017, 07:21 (Ref:3751368)   #278
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Well they've had the summer break to try and mend the bent chassis. Or can they not do that? Either way I wish this wouldn't keep dragging on
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