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Old 8 Jul 2017, 20:05 (Ref:3749652)   #31
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Urrutia never did F3 though. He did the spec-EuroOpen, somewhat lower in level.
Same power and aero downforce. The jump to GP3 was very tough.
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Old 8 Jul 2017, 20:06 (Ref:3749653)   #32
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IndyCar has 3 lower tiers and that works well.
The performance gap between Pro Mazda and Indy Lights is quite smaller than between F3 and GP2 / F2.
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Old 8 Jul 2017, 22:17 (Ref:3749667)   #33
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Same power and aero downforce. The jump to GP3 was very tough.
Yes, and if he had done top-end F3 he would have been at the back in that too...
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Old 8 Jul 2017, 22:23 (Ref:3749670)   #34
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Same power and aero downforce. The jump to GP3 was very tough.
have to agree with peebee2 here, there's a bigger difference than you think. f3 proper and euroformula are a fair distance away from each other in reality, they also run on different tyres. the attention to detail in real f3 is bewildering too, whereas euroformula requires the car to be run exactly as is comes out of the dallara factory. there's a massive difference in budget for a reason.

as for the jump from f3 to gp3, it's... well. if your man can't handle a different car then he's not the calibre of driver he should be. you don't really learn anything new like when jumping from f4 to f3 and suddenly having to get your head around downforce. THAT'S the make or break one. f3 proper prepares a driver for f1, not f2. maybe that's the imbalance in all this - f3 is underestimated by the numbering system and the importance of f2 is massively overinflated...
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Old 9 Jul 2017, 08:16 (Ref:3749710)   #35
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Seems to me that the aligning of single seater championships with F1 is the very thing that is killing them. They used to be championships worth winning in their own right but now are used by the F1 teams to locate the drivers with plenty of money then hoover up their cash with offers of a reserve driver deal
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f3 proper prepares a driver for f1, not f2. maybe that's the imbalance in all this - f3 is underestimated by the numbering system and the importance of f2 is massively overinflated...
Driving a 200hp car doesn't prepare you to drive a 700hp car.
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Old 9 Jul 2017, 22:27 (Ref:3750048)   #38
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Driving an F3 car us closer to F1 than anything else!
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And it is a very good way for young drivers to learn setup
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I don't think a World Championship would work - simply transporting cars, engines, spares, drivers and personell around the world would add too much costs for a driver who is still fairly early in their career without the big name sponsors.

Best to have specific events - the Macau Grand Prix, and the Masters at Zandvoort. The Americas never really took to F3.

A European event is straightforward for European teams to get to, and Macau works because of the logistics subsidised by the Macau authorities, as the event promotes the territory to the world.
My understanding is that it would not be a world championship but a European championship supporting F1 with regional F3 Lite series feeding into it.

I was talking to the organizers of the US F4 Championship this weekend and a world F4 shootout as well as a regional North American F3 series are being evaluated but they are looking for a sponsor. There are a lot of moving pieces in play right now and it will take at least 2 years for them to all settle into place.
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