Ingall... what a legend!

Crash Test · 11 May 2008, 23:13 (Ref:2199589)

Top form Rusty!

Come out in the press and blast the system for dudding him for repeatedly breaking the pit speed limit... it's just a shame that the other 28 cars in the field can drive at 40km/h...

Then he tries to punt the Vodafone car off the track going in a straight line, and takes a 5 gorrilla fine for his efforts...

What's his problem? I seem to remember him punting Mike Imrie off in a straight line. He also had some problems driving in a straight line at Eastern Creek in 2003...

It'll be sad day when he punts off someone and causes them or others some physical harm...

...but love you're work dude, I wouldn't try wiping my nose with a cheap wiper blade either!

nafe! · 12 May 2008, 01:38 (Ref:2199644)

Today after browsing through a couple of motorsport forums im surprised that someone hasnt made more of a fuss about his contact with Jamie.

His a hard one to read, he comes across as the joker and is fine out of the car, but every now and then he lives up to this tag "enforcer" with a very random and overly aggresive action on the track.

Bringing up his punting Mike off all those years ago i genuinely feel he should have been banned from racing the entire year. That was the most blatant attack on another driver on the track i have ever seen.

Ive generally thought his racing this year has been fine untill that moment yesterday...imagine the uproar if he had punted jamie off?

Chatters · 12 May 2008, 02:00 (Ref:2199653)

He's back in a Holden, he's got a legend to live up to...

ON YA ENFORCER!

Malfunction Junction · 12 May 2008, 02:05 (Ref:2199654)

Given that his boss has never (really) been sanctioned for his regular indiscretions, what hope is there for this one?

Has a driver ever been suspended during the last 11 years?

stoned pony · 12 May 2008, 02:11 (Ref:2199655)

He is believing his own press.

TSR · 12 May 2008, 02:31 (Ref:2199666)

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Originally Posted by Malfunction Junction

Has a driver ever been suspended during the last 11 years?

None, but there have being plenty of times that there should of being.

D.R.T. · 12 May 2008, 03:36 (Ref:2199690)

What I found the most disturbing was that Ingall felt that because this so called 'championship' is now entertainment not 'sport', that him speeding in pit lane should have be brushed over because it did nothing for entertainment and his sponsors

Is this really the state of Australian motorsport.

Also a Believer · 12 May 2008, 04:40 (Ref:2199715)

Hold on a second here, do we know if the so called accurate radar guns are in fact that. I would be inclined to err on the side of the motec system. Maybe they should do the radar thing, check the data at race end and apply a penalty equivilent to a drive through if necessary.

Bradley · 12 May 2008, 04:42 (Ref:2199716)

that incident in 99 at queensland - inagll and imerie -
he pulled up next to him to flip him the bird and imerie came over on him - so both were going for the same bit of road after the flag and contact was made. so i don't think ingall was intenially trying to hit the other car.

although imerie did let the leaders past and turned in on ingall with 3 corners to go, which was a very amature thing to do as there was plenty of room to let all the leaders by..

00 XR8 · 12 May 2008, 07:35 (Ref:2199804)

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Originally Posted by Bradley

that incident in 99 at queensland - inagll and imerie -
he pulled up next to him to flip him the bird and imerie came over on him - so both were going for the same bit of road after the flag and contact was made. so i don't think ingall was intenially trying to hit the other car.

although imerie did let the leaders past and turned in on ingall with 3 corners to go, which was a very amature thing to do as there was plenty of room to let all the leaders by..

Yes, Imrie held up Ingall with 3 corners to go...... but the incident happened in 2000, it was BEFORE the finish line, and there was no doubt at all that it was deliberate. Ingall swerved straight at him...... much like he did to the Safety Car at Hidden Valley one year (1999?), and in a similar way to his Skaife (2003) 'body swerve'.

A dangerous character that one....

nafe! · 12 May 2008, 08:10 (Ref:2199821)

I dont remember the safety car one? If it wasnt so serious it sounds very amusing

Pro Racer · 12 May 2008, 08:17 (Ref:2199829)

the ENFORCER returns. get the mungrel into ya.

RotorFan · 12 May 2008, 23:15 (Ref:2200587)

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Originally Posted by nafe!

very random and overly aggresive action on the track.

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Originally Posted by nafe!

Bringing up his punting Mike off all those years ago i genuinely feel he should have been banned from racing the entire year. That was the most blatant attack on another driver on the track i have ever seen.

I would agree, except I would say he should have been banned for a year for driving at Skaife in 2003. A race driver feigning to run over a pedestrian on the race circuit is something I have never seen before or since.

It was bad enough to turn Skaife around - after having said he would do as much in the press weeks before the EC round in 2003 (I still have the articles that say he would "do anything it takes" to get Ambrose the championship), but to drive towards him deserved suspension or expulsion.

Sorry to bring that up again, but it is seemingly on topic...

Conrod Kieron · 13 May 2008, 08:45 (Ref:2200834)

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Originally Posted by Also a Believer

Hold on a second here, do we know if the so called accurate radar guns are in fact that. I would be inclined to err on the side of the motec system. Maybe they should do the radar thing, check the data at race end and apply a penalty equivilent to a drive through if necessary.

One would expect that the thing is calibrated correctly and have a margin for error built in. Had it have been inacurate, we would see more car's doing the long, lonely drive thru, they all run the same Motec system...

Prickly_Goo · 16 May 2008, 01:54 (Ref:2203625)

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Originally Posted by Pro Racer

the ENFORCER returns. get the mungrel into ya.

Pro you took the words outta my mouth!!

The Dude and The Enforcer.. wonder if they would be any good at wrestling?

alfacors · 16 May 2008, 03:40 (Ref:2203653)

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Originally Posted by Also a Believer

Hold on a second here, do we know if the so called accurate radar guns are in fact that. I would be inclined to err on the side of the motec system. Maybe they should do the radar thing, check the data at race end and apply a penalty equivilent to a drive through if necessary.

Does this mean those who did not get pinged must have their limiters calibrated for well under 40kmh?

bludvl_x19 · 16 May 2008, 03:52 (Ref:2203655)

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Originally Posted by alfacors

Does this mean those who did not get pinged must have their limiters calibrated for well under 40kmh?

Or they are running right on the 40.

Mick

alfacors · 16 May 2008, 04:17 (Ref:2203660)

And perhaps someone's Motec wasn't as well calibrated and so they got pinged twice...... hmmmm

Scream'n_Demon · 16 May 2008, 08:58 (Ref:2203789)

Russel Ingall sure does make it interesting. I don't know whether to be angry at him or laugh at him. One thing's for sure though, he's no more than a bit of entertainment these days. His competitive days are over and he knows it.

theugsquirrel · 17 May 2008, 07:07 (Ref:2204536)

Well if his telemetry proves that the gun was wrong like he said it was, its an interesting situation indeed.

Even then, stupid penalties like Courtneys one aren't only bad for entertainment, but bad for the sport. I saw nothing wrong with Courtneys driving, and it makes it boring when drivers are ordered not to race each other and concede positions.

David Towe · 17 May 2008, 07:47 (Ref:2204552)

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Originally Posted by Chatters

He's back in a Holden, he's got a legend to live up to...

ON YA ENFORCER!

A spelling question...How do you spell "enforcer'? Answer...W.A.N.K.E.R.

Reason...anyone who behaves like Ingall does and places safety second to ego (Track rage?) should surely be pulled into line by the governing body if they were serious about their responsibilty to their competitors and marshalls.

If a competitor in a category lower on the totem pole did it, would they be given the same treatment by the stewards/CAMS?

peckstar · 18 May 2008, 00:14 (Ref:2205071)

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Even then, stupid penalties like Courtneys one aren't only bad for entertainment, but bad for the sport. I saw nothing wrong with Courtneys driving, and it makes it boring when drivers are ordered not to race each other and concede positions.

its only stupid if its poorly enforced (which it is)

ban the block i say (and Craig lowndes agrees with me) they are doing it in Careera cup, its time to bring it in V8's

SSbaby · 18 May 2008, 00:22 (Ref:2205073)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

A spelling question...How do you spell "enforcer'? Answer...W.A.N.K.E.R.

Reason...anyone who behaves like Ingall does and places safety second to ego (Track rage?) should surely be pulled into line by the governing body if they were serious about their responsibilty to their competitors and marshalls.

If a competitor in a category lower on the totem pole did it, would they be given the same treatment by the stewards/CAMS?

Yes. I'm no fan of Ingall's either. I don't care much that he's back in the Holden.

Although I'm sure Morris is pleased with Ingall's performances so far. It's been a while since a PMM car has consistently finished or even looked like running in the top ten.

Prickly_Goo · 18 May 2008, 11:46 (Ref:2205360)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

A spelling question...How do you spell "enforcer'? Answer...W.A.N.K.E.R.

No David theres only one w.a.n.k.e.r in v8s.. and thats Uncle Tom!

Go Rusty keep doing what youre doing pal, its great!

mac · 19 May 2008, 00:56 (Ref:2206048)

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Originally Posted by peckstar

ban the block i say (and Craig lowndes agrees with me) they are doing it in Careera cup, its time to bring it in V8's

No way!

There is absolutely no spectacle in watching the car in front being unable to defend his position.

Banning the defending of one's position is only ever necessary because the category formula is not right.

A driver should have to work to make a place.