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Old 16 Oct 2017, 05:59 (Ref:3774430)   #16
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Yes and I've got some beachfront property in Alice Springs you might be interested in.

He did do some good stuff financially for the series in a difficult role to fill but not a fan of how he handled the tv deal which for the short term gain will hurt the sport in the long run more so.

Going by the comments on Speedcafe this morning Mike Jacobson should put his hand up-in doing so sending the sport back to the dark ages but I digress.
I'm new on here and upon reading the vitriol on Speedcafe it makes me wonder when the psych ward/s of Australia allowed internet access.

Its good to read on here regular input that is generally constructive with minor exceptions however overall we should be thankful we have a vibrant main race series with lots of support categories.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 06:24 (Ref:3774432)   #17
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How is Mike Jacobson, if that is his real name, not a member on here? He'd fit in well with the other argumentative types... But I digress.
As in the Mike Jacobson who worked the beat for Auto Action and Racing Car News, amongst others?
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 09:02 (Ref:3774440)   #18
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I'm new on here and upon reading the vitriol on Speedcafe it makes me wonder when the psych ward/s of Australia allowed internet access.

Its good to read on here regular input that is generally constructive with minor exceptions however overall we should be thankful we have a vibrant main race series with lots of support categories.
In regards to lots of support categories, There was more years ago. But as the Supercars, built the Glass House, and then upped the $$$ required to come and play in their sandpit, and lack of air time, these categories soon left, like a lot of sponsors.

Yes they did some good, but also, sucked the guts of motosport Aust wide.
Basically, if you weren't in the supercars family , you couldn't play in the sandpit.

I do remember fields of 20 formula Fords, 30 Aussie cars, 20 odd utes, heaps off others, all gone and no longer playing in the sandpit

The Fox deal saved their butt, but it will bite them in the future
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 10:36 (Ref:3774446)   #19
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He hasn't quite finished driving the Gold Coast Suns to their knees just yet.
Just hang on a short while. Will have well and truly completed that task in the not too distant future.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:21 (Ref:3774448)   #20
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Warburton gets my vote for the best CEO the category has had.He inherited a financial basket case and did a fair job of turning it around.If the series spurned Foxtel and stayed FTA it would still be a basket case only much worse.
Nothing against Mr Warburton, as you point out he had work to do when he walked in but best CEO so far has easily Wayne Cattach - one of the founders of the whole category, moved it forward massively in his time there and was there for an extended period of time.

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I do remember fields of 20 formula Fords, 30 Aussie cars, 20 odd utes, heaps off others, all gone and no longer playing in the sandpit
Aussie race cars still run with VASC, Utes had a spot on the program but are in the process of change to the diesel series and FF not running nationally is a great shame but I don't think you can put all the blame on VASC, CAMS has a fair bit of blame in that one as well.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:28 (Ref:3774449)   #21
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and 23 utes at their last round, however it was a bit of a goodbye deal
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:37 (Ref:3774451)   #22
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[QUOTE=Umai Naa;3774409]How is Mike Jacobson, if that is his real name, not a member on here? He'd fit in well with the other argumentative types... But I digress.


FYI Mike Jacobson is a real person and in the past has been a published writer in the motorsport realm... here's a current link http://www.goodpublicity.com.au/inde...-jacobson.html
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 11:51 (Ref:3774455)   #23
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Mr Warburton's departure will be noticed, and is a loss to the sport.

The financial re-righting of a sporting category that was arguably not in control of its future will forever be his legacy.

Had the series continued with previous management, there would likely be as many as a dozen less cars on the current grid, having had to hand back their RECs, being unable to continue operation.

We also need to understand and accept that Archer Capital is a short term owner of this investment asset. They, and others of their ilk, do not have a reputation for building for the future if in their view, the job is already done.

Mr Warburton, thank you for your service, for sourcing and developing the team under your to deliver a very good entertainment product.
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I'm new on here and upon reading the vitriol on Speedcafe it makes me wonder when the psych ward/s of Australia allowed internet access.

Its good to read on here regular input that is generally constructive with minor exceptions however overall we should be thankful we have a vibrant main race series with lots of support categories.
Completely agree on all fronts.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 12:04 (Ref:3774462)   #26
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We also need to understand and accept that Archer Capital is a short term owner of this investment asset. They, and others of their ilk, do not have a reputation for building for the future if in their view, the job is already done.
And wasn't Mr Warburton ultimately working for Archer Capital and doing his business on their commands? Archer who you are short term owners and as you say do not have a reputation for building for the future if in their view, the job is already done

Surely the money grab TV deal will be his legacy?
Or the Bathurst 12hr clash of 2015?
Or the loss of Homebush under his watch?

People will come back with the usual rubbish about how the series would have died without the Foxtel money, but i'll counter with the reply that if the competitors in a series can apparently only survive on TV money handouts, then does the series really deserve to survive?
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 12:19 (Ref:3774466)   #27
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The Ch10 TV deal certainly wasn't a money grab.

Homebush was on it's way out as it was. Mr Warburton did however, seek out a very suitable replacement.

As for the 12hr, we all have our theories, but only those that know, will know how that came about, and why. It happened the one time, we all whinged, and most of us got over it and moved on.
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The Ch10 TV deal certainly wasn't a money grab.
We both know i wasn't talking about the Ch10 part of the deal
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 12:25 (Ref:3774468)   #29
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If Fox wanted to stump up that sort of money, then so be it. The upshot of that was saving what is basically the backbone of the motorsport industry in this country.

Teams might be struggling now, but they were much worse off only a few years ago.
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Old 16 Oct 2017, 12:48 (Ref:3774473)   #30
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If Fox wanted to stump up that sort of money, then so be it. The upshot of that was saving what is basically the backbone of the motorsport industry in this country.

Teams might be struggling now, but they were much worse off only a few years ago.
But the image portrayed is that the whole circus, the "backbone of the motorsport industry in this country", cannot survive without a massive TV cheque.

That doesn't sound healthy, what happens if the next cheque in 2021 isn't as large?
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