[BTCC] Snetertton 300 rounds 16,17,18 2014

[skells22]

in ten days time the BTCC will be back under way after a month gap and there was not too many repairs to make after last time out at Croft so i think there will be a full field of 31 cars heading towards Riches next weekend

[Sodemo]

I'll be there, but only for qualifying. I don't think the spectator experience lends itself all that well for race day viewing.

[BtccLee]

I maintain a Motorbase 3 Series will be there, maybe that's the car Aunt Sally described, the mystery machine.

However, I am incredibly naive and stupid. So it probably won't be!

[BillWiskins]

Wouldn't be the first 'secret' car they've rolled out after a summer break, obviously... Seems unlikely to my equally uneducated self, but then that's also what I'd have said about the NGTC Focus that appeared out of nowhere that time.

Rotek thinking about a second Audi S3, with a few interested drivers having a go at the test day at Snetterton. Sometimes I wonder if lower-end teams have a tendency to expand too quickly when they might be better off getting one car up to speed.

In other news, the summer break has gone by very quickly this year.

[Craner Curves]

Originally Posted by BillWiskins

In other news, the summer break has gone by very quickly this year.

That's because it's shorter

[medius]

Originally Posted by BillWiskins

Rotek thinking about a second Audi S3, with a few interested drivers having a go at the test day at Snetterton. Sometimes I wonder if lower-end teams have a tendency to expand too quickly when they might be better off getting one car up to speed.

Alex MacDowell tested it at Pembrey today.

[Dimension]

provided the funds are there, why would you not go with a second car? Having a second car doesn't slow the first one down, on the contrary, you get twice the opportunity to test stuff out and learn under race, practice and qualifying conditions.

[TR.]

Originally Posted by Dimension

provided the funds are there, why would you not go with a second car? Having a second car doesn't slow the first one down, on the contrary, you get twice the opportunity to test stuff out and learn under race, practice and qualifying conditions.

Plus split your logistic, spares and other costs between two.

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by TR.

Plus split your logistic, spares and other costs between two.

If the seat's going to MacDowell then he'll need a few more spare parts!

[redshoes]

All this talk about a second car is fine but it's not going to happen without another licence and where is that coming from? TOCA won't be issuing any more TBLs so that means buying or leasing from another team.

The story about this seems a little contradictory. "As long as we get some testing in, I think we should be able to progress and we will be better in the second half of the season", yet they aren't going to be able to do any meaningful development at Snetterton if they are bringing in a string of rookie drivers.

[CarsCarsCars]

Originally Posted by redshoes

All this talk about a second car is fine but it's not going to happen without another licence and where is that coming from? TOCA won't be issuing any more TBLs so that means buying or leasing from another team.

The story about this seems a little contradictory. "As long as we get some testing in, I think we should be able to progress and we will be better in the second half of the season", yet they aren't going to be able to do any meaningful development at Snetterton if they are bringing in a string of rookie drivers.

Would there be the opportunity for a temporary license? The reason they want spare ones is so if a big team/manufacture wants in, there's room on the grid. But if Gow knows that no-one else wants the last licence, could Rotek not get it on a temporary basis, just for the remainder of the season?

I dont know what their thinking is behind it or any other details so its pure speculation. I can also not see the point in them building an extra car if they cant run it.

[porsche962fan]

and regarding buying one from an existing team the only candidates I can think of who would have budget issues for next season

- Simon Belcher
- one Welsh entry
- perhaps BTC Racing...

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by CarsCarsCars

Would there be the opportunity for a temporary license? The reason they want spare ones is so if a big team/manufacture wants in, there's room on the grid. But if Gow knows that no-one else wants the last licence, could Rotek not get it on a temporary basis, just for the remainder of the season?

I'm pretty sure that if Rotek had a car built and sitting there, a Gow wouldn't let a licence get in the way of putting that car on track. They appear to be a well financed outfit and his main concern was the hand to mouth brigade.

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

I maintain a Motorbase 3 Series will be there, maybe that's the car Aunt Sally described, the mystery machine.

However, I am incredibly naive and stupid. So it probably won't be!

I'd love to see a 3 series out, but didn't WSR decide against using this model in NGTC form due to its size ? Not sure why Dave Bartrum would have a different opinion on that to Dick Bennetts ?

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

and regarding buying one from an existing team the only candidates I can think of who would have budget issues for next season

I'm glad someone understood the implications. Rotek running a second car only happens if we lose one from somewhere else.

[thetool]

There's no reason that Rotek couldn't make use of the 32nd TBL that TOCA held back at the start of the reason, on a temporary basis or otherwise.

[davyboy]

Snetertton ? Lokos liek somenoe hsa lysdexia Maeby a mdo cna fxi ?

[davyboy]

Originally Posted by thetool

There's no reason that Rotek couldn't make use of the 32nd TBL that TOCA held back at the start of the reason, on a temporary basis or otherwise.

Fairly sure that's what would happen. Gow doesn't want to turn away a strong entrant... one or two of the others look shakier than Rotek and may not be back next year.

[BtccLee]

Originally Posted by davyboy

I'd love to see a 3 series out, but didn't WSR decide against using this model in NGTC form due to its size ? Not sure why Dave Bartrum would have a different opinion on that to Dick Bennetts ?

Yes neither do I but it is "From the horse's mouth", that they are looking to build one and have a shell. For 2015 admittedly... Things can change though.

That reminds me of an interesting point, I do not want to plunge back in to RWD and FWD arguments but in Autosport's analysis I think Oly Collins of Motorbase was saying that they had argued over the winter for the RWD cars to have further restrictions.

Seems bizarre, if Motorbase were looking at the project at the time, to be making such comments. I wonder if they are still doing so, behind the scenes, arguing for it. Just seems counterproductive.

Anyway, 32nd TBL. I do not believe Rotek have built a second car. I think Mr Macdowall was testing the one that presently exists. And Gow was fairly resolute on the issue of that TBL.

[porsche962fan]

will be interesting of Jordan will keep his 10 grid places penalty


Gio starting from the back, I guess, FP1, FP 2 and qualy will be used as test sessions for racing setup

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Luckily for AJ, you can overtake around Snetterton, unlike Oulton.

[cos]

Goff and Scott are switching to VWs from this weekend. That'll mean no Vauxhalls on the grid since...??

[Biscuits In A Red Bull]

Originally Posted by cos

Goff and Scott are switching to VWs from this weekend. That'll mean no Vauxhalls on the grid since...??

Crikey, probably 1957

[Madd_Dogg88]

That's actually quite a sad thought!

[Jiiiiiiim]

Originally Posted by Biscuits In A Red Bull

Crikey, probably 1957

Can't remember if it was the final round of 88 there were no Vauxhalls, memory isn't as good as it use to be.

Shame, but it would be interesting to know if BMR thing the Vauxhalls could be developed more? Would they be a better choice to some other teams on the grid, Goff has been doing ok in 'Phoenix' but if it's developed up as well as it can be (not sure it ever truly has been)!

Could use them as 'guest cars' for some of the races