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12 Sep 2011, 18:54 (Ref:2954633) | #1 | |
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Formula Ford 2012
All-new Formula Ford races into view for 2012 at Frankfurt Show
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12 Sep 2011, 20:12 (Ref:2954671) | #2 | ||
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Not sure i like that to be honest, its as if they found an old picture of the zip formula car and tried to recreate it.....
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14 Sep 2011, 13:47 (Ref:2955445) | #3 | ||
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What do you think?
http://www.britishformulaford.co.uk/news/2011/120911.htm I fear that it will be quite expensive! The death of Formula Ford? |
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15 Sep 2011, 02:14 (Ref:2955710) | #4 | |
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So, whats the story on this car...is this intended as the start of a new spec FF series?...or do you buy this package from FORD for to compete against the existing manufacturers?
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15 Sep 2011, 06:08 (Ref:2955736) | #5 | |
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Current manufacturers such as Mygale & Van Diemen are building new spec cars. Meanwhile the current generation of Duratec cars will be still be eligible next year as Class B cars.
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15 Sep 2011, 06:50 (Ref:2955744) | #6 | ||
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In some pictures there are Mygale personel working on the car. That makes me wonder if the "Ford" show car is actually the 2012 Mygale or will their own product differ from this one.
Some parts are same for all in sake of aerodynamic equivalence and brand identity but has anyone heard which exact areas are free and which must stay in spec? |
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15 Sep 2011, 09:41 (Ref:2955803) | #7 | |
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Wow! Bye Bye Formula Ford as we know it
Surely the new cars will be very expensive. I predict to more cars running in "Class B" than in these paska looking toys! |
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15 Sep 2011, 11:48 (Ref:2955874) | #9 | ||
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Sorry, didnt see the other thread
I'm not only looking at the UK championship, but also the Benelux and the Danish championships. With a total of, say 40 cars, the market for a new FF is very limited. I think the plan is to attract teams from other formulae, like Renault, ADAC and the former Formula BMW. I have heard that Jamun wont join until there is a reasonable grid! ยด |
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20 Sep 2011, 09:51 (Ref:2958407) | #10 | |
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That is great, bring the new teams in to build championship.
But how about the current "smaller" teams? Jamun say they wont join unless there is a big grid. But if the other teams cant afford to buy new car, how will that grid grow? A point? Part the new regs too introduce road car technology. Sequential Gear box then ?? |
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20 Sep 2011, 10:41 (Ref:2958424) | #11 | ||
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Would any manufacturer have the vision, or gumption, to take advantage of this and create a real FFord type class?
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20 Sep 2011, 11:53 (Ref:2958455) | #12 | ||
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I have no problem with the concept here but I do question the timing. Race grids are much thinner than we'd like them to be. British FF, although down in numbers on last year has been realatively healthy with grids nudging 20 cars in the UK and 30 in the Euro Cup. Contrast this with UK Formula Renault which struggles to field a dozen cars. Unless Ford are able to offer a major incentive to teams to field the new car then I fear grids will dwindle as costs increase. I hope that I am proved wrong as I will hate to see the continuation of Formula Ford threatened. |
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21 Sep 2011, 12:39 (Ref:2959053) | #13 | ||
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I didn't mean the constructor, the manufacturer. There used to be Vauxhall jnr for instance or a beefed up FVee, it's only supposed to be an entry level class. Then again, typically, the increased cost is in building the car not the engine. Thinking some more, the biggest problem with FFord is factory teams, or in Australia, wannabe V8Supercar teams taking over the class where it should be just for privateers.
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30 Sep 2011, 07:13 (Ref:2962826) | #14 | |
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Ford have announced that they will help teams with equipment. What sort of "bribe" is on offer? Will it be free engines or something similiar?
Will Jamun move on or will they take the incentive to continue from Ford? I for one would like to see them move on but where would they go. Most of the options are even more expensive. Rules stability is what competitors want so that they can get a return on their investment. If they must change things why not go cheaper. It is all very well saying it is to align the formula with the road cars but how foolish would the Ford guys look if no one bought new cars. |
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30 Sep 2011, 11:04 (Ref:2962901) | #15 | ||
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I like it. Apart from that terrible front end.
I think the teams will manage as well. |
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30 Sep 2011, 20:57 (Ref:2963212) | #16 | |
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"Will Jamun move on or will they take the incentive to continue from Ford?
I for one would like to see them move on but where would they go. Most of the options are even more expensive". Perhaps Jamun & Malvern will move on together next year |
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3 Oct 2011, 20:58 (Ref:2965173) | #17 | |
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I saw your suggestion that "national" class in BF3 might be an option for Jamun.
WAY TO GO. And even better if Scott could join them. |
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21 Oct 2011, 22:33 (Ref:2974966) | #18 | |
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The new FF ECOBOOST car was out testing again today at Silverstone with Scott Malvern at the wheel
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13 Nov 2011, 15:48 (Ref:2985599) | #19 | |
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I hear new the car will be out testing again this week at Brands Hatch with Scott Malvern as the driver.
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14 Nov 2011, 09:07 (Ref:2986052) | #20 | |
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Any sign of the new Mygale? They say it has much smaller bodywork than the car they produced for Ford.
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Any news about Van Diemen, Ray et.al. or will the new FF EcoBoost become yet another mono type series? |
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30 Dec 2011, 17:13 (Ref:3005592) | #22 | ||
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Since I administer Monoposto Racing in the UK I need to point this out! Having said that, I personally also agree completely with the point you are making. The strength and attractiveness of Formula Ford is very much related to the fact that it has always been a formula in which the chassis were designed and made by many manufacturers. If it in effect becomes another one-make category I fear for its future. Simon Davey Administrator Monoposto Racing Club |
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I realise monoposto nowadays usually means Monoposto Racing Club's championship in UK, but you should keep in mind, that in the rest of the world, it's just a synonym for a single seater... And I never meant to say "Mono" or "Monoposto" but mono-type. Even though, I have no idea if it is a valid term for a spec series. My apologies for any confusion I may have caused by incorrect wording. |
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Everybody knows what you are talking about and it is perfect English on what is an international forum. |
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How many new style cars will be out for the first round? I have only heard of 2 drivers who have signed for Ford. Any more news on who will be returning or joining the series in 2012?
The new Mygale is looking nice... |
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