BTCC BTCC 2017 - Rounds 13, 14, 15 - Croft - Page 8

850Estate · 13 Jun 2017, 07:46 (Ref:3740778)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BertMk2

That annoys me too - there was one at Brands set up at Paddock - so nicely obstructing views at one of the best spots to watch from. Some people set them up away from the fencing (so people can still get in front of them to watch) - that's not so bad. Lydden had the best approach here - they banned them.

I remember someone totally ripping it at Knockhill in (I think) 2013. They set up a massive gazebo, with a wind sheltered beer garden and barbecue. It took up about 14 'seat spaces'! I've got no issue with the little wind shelters. There was a family who set one of them up in front of me, but because of the slope and the height of it, it actually gave me a better view than when they sat on their chairs - but people with things that you could spend a week in with the family need to take a look at themselves!

I'm always amazed by how selfish folk can be too. I had people walk right infront of where my group were on Sunday, and then stop and stand for a couple of laps of the GT4s. I simply couldn't do that.

All forms of tent like structure are banned on the bankings at Knockhill now - which is a shame for club meets when it tends to be pretty quiet, and brutally cold - but I can't help but feel as if the home-away-from-home caused that.

crmalcolm · 13 Jun 2017, 11:25 (Ref:3740840)

For BTCC, I would gladly see a ban on all furniture over 2ft tall. I understand wind breaks and chairs, but gazebos are just selfish.
We had to take a small beach shelter to donington a few years ago, but that was after my wife had surgery on her foot and was using crutches. The shelter allowed us to set up a position that protected us from the elements for the day - but we set it up a distance away from the fence on higher ground to prevent obstructing others' views.

luckn002 · 13 Jun 2017, 15:29 (Ref:3740888)

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...croft-contact/

Interesting video here related to driving standards / penalties from AMD

**BertMk2** · 13 Jun 2017, 15:44 (Ref:3740894)

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckn002

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...croft-contact/

Interesting video here related to driving standards / penalties from AMD

Hmm, people in glass houses and all that. I'm not sure Ollie Jackson has too much room to complain about driving standards.

VIVA GT · 13 Jun 2017, 15:46 (Ref:3740896)

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckn002

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017...croft-contact/

Interesting video here related to driving standards / penalties from AMD

Yes, a very interesting piece that but I'm a bit confused about the damage to the front of this car. Is he suggesting that other drivers reversed into the Audi, or does he accept that his driver must have driven into others?

Northern Monkey · 13 Jun 2017, 15:53 (Ref:3740898)

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Yes, a very interesting piece that but I'm a bit confused about the damage to the front of this car. Is he suggesting that other drivers reversed into the Audi, or does he accept that his driver must have driven into others?

The damage to the front of the car was caused by him being shoved from behind into the car in front

luckn002 · 13 Jun 2017, 16:51 (Ref:3740916)

Also a weird coincidence that both times O. Jackson has been on pole his race has been ruined by M. Jackson - the first back in the old Golf when Mat dropped oil causing the pile up at Brands.

Some kind of inter-Jackson rivalry maybe!

Jon411 · 13 Jun 2017, 17:04 (Ref:3740919)

Quote:

Originally Posted by coppice

I will be taking a Stanley knife to BTCC Croft next year to remove those f***ing gazeboes etc. If wet , OK use a brolly, but these bloody marquees are appalling and selfishly obstruct the view a good ten metres either side .

Last October at Brands Hatch people that put those things up right at the front by the fences blocking anyone from seeing anything if they were behind it and then making it obvious they were annoyed when people stood on the side where the corner poles are on those things so that they could see what was happening on-track through the gazebo. I really wish all the circuits would ban them. One of them being used by about 6 people was so big it would have sheltered nearer 26 people.

Alfisti · 13 Jun 2017, 18:52 (Ref:3740951)

Good news: Jeff is out of intensive care. Has been shuffled in to a trauma ward. Probably not going home soon but definitely moving in the right direction.

ATS paid him a visit too; good lad is Aron.

Luke remains in intensive care.

Rob877 · 13 Jun 2017, 19:23 (Ref:3740965)

Quote:

Originally Posted by VIVA GT

Yes, a very interesting piece that but I'm a bit confused about the damage to the front of this car. Is he suggesting that other drivers reversed into the Audi, or does he accept that his driver must have driven into others?

Think the damage on the front was caused by Proctor shoving AWE in to Mike Epps. It happened right in front of me, noticed Proctor using that particular move on a few drivers throughout the day.

geordiecriag101 · 13 Jun 2017, 19:39 (Ref:3740971)

Just a quick one from me, here my vid from Sunday. Apologies for the dodgy video and sound in places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwoDLcEBdhU

850Estate · 13 Jun 2017, 20:24 (Ref:3740992)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Good news: Jeff is out of intensive care. Has been shuffled in to a trauma ward. Probably not going home soon but definitely moving in the right direction.

ATS paid him a visit too; good lad is Aron.

Luke remains in intensive care.

That's good to hear. Aron's always struck me as one of the more approachable drivers, the sort of guy who appreciates what he has, and just has a generally infectious personality. I hope his visit helped cheer Jeff up a wee bit - although not too much, as laughing is absolute murder with broken ribs!

I think I'd be safe in saying that Luke has the support of all of us on here, and the greater motorsport community as a whole. Hopefully we'll hear something positive from his side soon.

S griffin · 14 Jun 2017, 10:25 (Ref:3741136)

Yes and I've met ATS and found him to be a gentleman. It's good that Jeff is out of intensive care, let's hope Luke is out soon too

Alfisti · 14 Jun 2017, 13:17 (Ref:3741186)

Motorbase have released a statement on Luke: early days but sounds promising is my interpretation.

“Further to his accident at Croft Circuit on Saturday, Luke remains in the excellent care of the staff at the ICU of James Cook Hospital in Middlesbrough.

“He has undergone a number of successful operations on his leg and pelvis and we are happy to report that there are no signs of any injuries to his head, neck or spine.

“Luke has been briefly conscious during his time on the ICU and the current plan is for him to hopefully be brought out of the induced come later this week.

“Once again we would like to pass our sincerest thanks to the marshals, BTCC extrication team, BTCC medical team, Croft circuit staff, Air Ambulance Crew, TOCA and the wonderful staff at James Cook Hospital for their professionalism, support and ongoing care.

“We will post further updates in due course, but would ask for the family’s privacy to be respected at this difficult time. Luke’s family and everyone at Motorbase Performance are incredibly grateful for the messages of support that have been received.”

Fingers crossed.

S griffin · 15 Jun 2017, 15:39 (Ref:3741680)

Those signs are encouraging. Hopefully he will be out of the induced coma sometime this week, it seems they made the right decision to err on the side of caution in his case

CaptRustyNail · 15 Jun 2017, 18:24 (Ref:3741813)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon411

Last October at Brands Hatch people that put those things up right at the front by the fences blocking anyone from seeing anything if they were behind it and then making it obvious they were annoyed when people stood on the side where the corner poles are on those things so that they could see what was happening on-track through the gazebo. I really wish all the circuits would ban them. One of them being used by about 6 people was so big it would have sheltered nearer 26 people.

I went to Oulton Park in 2014 and there were tents and gazebos right up to the fencing on the outfield area of Knickerbrook. No chance of seeing anything when stood back due to the lack of slope there. Irritating things.

The SpeCTator · 15 Jun 2017, 21:22 (Ref:3741980)

I quite agree that the gazebo culture is becoming a problem but it is almost entirely BTCC lead at Brands.
For the last 2 years at Paddock Bend they have been situated on the fence, enabling 4 people inside a good view whilst the masses behind can not see through them.
Despite raising it with MSV officials on the day no action was taken.
MSV is never short of rules in the paddock but perhaps it is time they declare and enforce a policy on gazebo/ fence tents where the minority are spoiling it for the majority.
Maybe it will only happen when somebody turns up with a branded gazebo and gets free advertising!

BLiTZ · 16 Jun 2017, 07:31 (Ref:3742108)

I think MSV would take notice if one were to blow onto the circuit mid-race.

Now I know the chances of that happening even on the windiest of days is pretty slim, but if someone were to loosen the pegs a little...

Similarly, if one were to catch fire due to a knocked over disposable BBQ...

Ry44 · 16 Jun 2017, 15:30 (Ref:3742238)

Some good ish news to end the week with an update on Luke

https://twitter.com/DuoMotorsport/st...25374155567106

Ry44 · 16 Jun 2017, 16:23 (Ref:3742247)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ry44

Some good ish news to end the week with an update on Luke

https://twitter.com/DuoMotorsport/st...25374155567106

original removed but it read

Having been brought out of his induced coma Davenport has now been moved to the high dependency unit to continue his recover.

“Luke was considered well enough to be moved from ICU to the high dependency unit this morning as he is off his ventilator,” a statement from sponsors DUO read. “He is conscious, but communicating at a very basic level.

“Luke is mending well, the only concern being his right lung which is taking its time to get back to normality. His family are with him at his bedside.

“The staff at the James Cook University Hospital have been amazing and the messages from friends, colleagues and fans are truly inspiring for him and all his family.”

Alfisti · 20 Jun 2017, 21:57 (Ref:3745613)

Good news from James Cook Hospital: Luke is out of intensive care, conscious and communicating. Now in the high dependency ward to continue recovery.

No doubt Jeff will provide good company!

All the best to both and to the staff at James Cook. 😀

Alfisti · 21 Jun 2017, 12:37 (Ref:3745765)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Good news from James Cook Hospital: Luke is out of intensive care, conscious and communicating. Now in the high dependency ward to continue recovery.

No doubt Jeff will provide good company!

All the best to both and to the staff at James Cook. 😀

Jeff has been discharged. 😀

Sodemo · 21 Jun 2017, 13:15 (Ref:3745777)

Great news all round.

S griffin · 21 Jun 2017, 13:22 (Ref:3745780)

Well I hope he shows his gratitude to the hospital who have done a great job helping him recover. Great news all round

**BertMk2** · 21 Jun 2017, 15:23 (Ref:3745806)

Quote:

Originally Posted by S griffin

Well I hope he shows his gratitude to the hospital who have done a great job helping him recover.

Odd comment. Why would he not be grateful?

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
[BTCC] Rounds 1,2,3 Brands Hatch Indy 2017	skells22	Touring Car Racing	293	20 Apr 2017 10:49
[BTCC] Donington Park rounds 4,5 & 6 2017	skells22	Touring Car Racing	137	19 Apr 2017 18:35
2017 Pirelli World Challenge Rounds 1 and 2: St. Petersburg	Mechanic Z	North American Racing	85	17 Mar 2017 19:31
BTCC rounds 13, 14, 15 - Croft	850Estate	Touring Car Racing	56	21 Jun 2016 19:43
BTCC - Croft (Yorkshire) - Rounds 10-12, 3rd June 07	Hazard	Touring Car Racing	76	5 Jun 2007 19:55