Pierre Gasly/the pope at Renault? - Page 7

djinvicta · 9 Nov 2016, 22:33 (Ref:3686857)

Ouch! Palmer third choice in that case!!

kpkorsager · 10 Nov 2016, 00:30 (Ref:3686872)

I think that Palmer was 5th choise

1st. Ocon (Mercedes)
2nd Saint (RB)
3rd Hülkenberg
4th Magnussen
5th Palmer

Edit: Maybe even 6th if we look at Romain Grosjean

knighty · 10 Nov 2016, 09:05 (Ref:3686926)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkorsager

I think that Palmer was 5th choise

1st. Ocon (Mercedes)
2nd Saint (RB)
3rd Hülkenberg
4th Magnussen
5th Palmer

Edit: Maybe even 6th if we look at Romain Grosjean

agreed, looks like he was the last man standing in a game of musical-chairs, but I must say I see next years 2017 Renault seat as a plum drive, they could do domething special once they sort the chassis, as the engine is now very close to the mercs.

so Renault now have a German and English driver, that should be a marketing guys dream when it comes to selling cars in the huge car markets that are Germany and the UK.......it should give them some good brand exposure.......personally I would not buy a Renault unless I was seriously desperate or deluded......but there are plenty of car buyers that will snap them up because of a cracking finance deal!........anyway lets hope this is justification for Renault to sell cars, therefore actually stay in the sport on a permanent basis instead of leaving every 5 years

gert · 10 Nov 2016, 11:51 (Ref:3686942)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkorsager

I think that Palmer was 5th choise

1st. Ocon (Mercedes)
2nd Saint (RB)
3rd Hülkenberg
4th Magnussen
5th Palmer

Edit: Maybe even 6th if we look at Romain Grosjean

... and Pérez.

Point is that in the last few weeks he was #3 (I think) in the list for the 2nd seat.
Sainz, Perez and Grosjean had already declined and Magnussen had seat #1.
So 3rd in a list of 3 after Ocon and Magnussen.

LavidaLoca · 10 Nov 2016, 12:47 (Ref:3686951)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpkorsager

I think that Palmer was 5th choise

1st. Ocon (Mercedes)
2nd Saint (RB)
3rd Hülkenberg
4th Magnussen
5th Palmer

Edit: Maybe even 6th if we look at Romain Grosjean

So basicly Gasly has never been in contention for this drive so why is this thread so called......?

peebee2 · 10 Nov 2016, 18:12 (Ref:3687002)

I think he was in line for Reno or TR but **** his mouth off and blew it

**bella** · 11 Nov 2016, 00:08 (Ref:3687066)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin magnussen on autosport.com

"It was my decision - I had an offer but not a good enough offer that I could take it," he said.

"If they'd committed to a longer contract I would probably have looked at that much more seriously.

"It was more the feeling of them not committing, taking so long and offering to so many drivers - I think at one point the Pope had an offer.

"It was a bit messy, so it was better for me to leave."

hehehehehe. oh snap.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report...ot-good-enough

kpkorsager · 11 Nov 2016, 01:15 (Ref:3687077)

Well Magnussen learned the game well when he was droped by McLaren.

There is nobody that is closer to you but yourself.

Must have felt petty good just to have the luxery of saying "sorry guys. Not good enough"

Lets see. same time next year we will know if it was the right choise.

chillibowl · 11 Nov 2016, 15:49 (Ref:3687191)

great thread name change!

i guess if there is anything to infer from this it is:

Pope to Renault,
Webber to Renault,
Webber is the Pope?

**bella** · 11 Nov 2016, 16:03 (Ref:3687196)

lol, it'd explain a LOT, particularly the god complex

cds_uk · 11 Nov 2016, 18:24 (Ref:3687229)

Grosjean and Magnussen is a very tidy line up at Haas isn't it, as for Jolyon being 2nd, 3rd, 4th or 5th choice for the Renault seat, i very much doubt that he cares now.

**bella** · 11 Nov 2016, 20:18 (Ref:3687253)

no, but it's like when you get lads lurking round the club at chucking out time on a friday night looking for that girl they were trying to hook up with earlier in the night to see if they were drunk enough to go home with them

Mekola · 11 Nov 2016, 23:36 (Ref:3687291)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillibowl

great thread name change!

i guess if there is anything to infer from this it is:

Pope to Renault,
Webber to Renault,
Webber is the Pope?

Since the Pope is Argentinian, perhaps is a way for Jose-Maria Lopez to be in an one-off race in F1 for 2017, since he has enough license points to run in any race of the season, due to his three consecutive WTCC championships.

cds_uk · 12 Nov 2016, 07:32 (Ref:3687374)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella

no, but it's like when you get lads lurking round the club at chucking out time on a friday night looking for that girl they were trying to hook up with earlier in the night to see if they were drunk enough to go home with them

Without doubt the analogy of the year!

p-matt · 12 Nov 2016, 07:47 (Ref:3687377)

With all the smugness on here that Palmer was so far down Renault's list, let's not forget that Magnussen wasn't offered much more - essentially the same deal but before Jo.

**bella** · 12 Nov 2016, 11:25 (Ref:3687398)

but all that does is justifies magnussen's decision to move on...

**chunterer** · 12 Nov 2016, 16:44 (Ref:3687456)

Quote:

Originally Posted by p-matt

With all the smugness on here that Palmer was so far down Renault's list, let's not forget that Magnussen wasn't offered much more - essentially the same deal but before Jo.

And Kev decided that was a crap offer and left. Palmer wouldn't have dared do that at this stage of his career and as far as we know had no other options?

Maybe he coukd have had a rich dad bidding war with King for the Manor drive?

p-matt · 12 Nov 2016, 19:02 (Ref:3687486)

Jo was in contention at Force India. And I heard that he had opportunities at Sauber and Manor too. So he had every opportunity to stay in F1 if Renault didn't give him a second chance.

My point is that everyone bangs on so much about Kev, but he's demonstrated in two seasons that he's not the full package. Renault lumped him in with Palmer behind Grosjean, Ocon, Sainz, Perez and Hulkenberg on their wishlist. The team itself are pretty much saying that they regard both of their current drivers in the same way, and that's not very high.

gert · 12 Nov 2016, 20:02 (Ref:3687495)

Quote:

Originally Posted by p-matt

Jo was in contention at Force India. And I heard that he had opportunities at Sauber and Manor too. So he had every opportunity to stay in F1 if Renault didn't give him a second chance.

I think that's a bit (?) exaggerated. He will probably have been on the Manor and Sauber shortlist, but it all depends on who else is on that list, and who is/are the preferred ones.

Sauber is known to prefer Ericsson and Nasr (if sponsor deal comes through)
Palmer may have been on the 'plan B"-list there".

Manor? No idea, but would be up against Wehrlain, Nasr (if no Sauber), Haryanto, King(?) and Gutierrez.

I am not so sure he would have grabbed a race seat if he turned down the Renault offer (and I'm quite convinced Renault knew that too)

peebee2 · 12 Nov 2016, 20:52 (Ref:3687501)

Sauber is simple. She will only think if money. Ability irrelevant

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