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Falcadore · 3 Feb 2007, 08:11 (Ref:1832390)

There was questionable legality of the Ovlovs at the time. Hope nobody looks too closely now. Especially with a ruler.

**GTRMagic** · 3 Feb 2007, 08:33 (Ref:1832398)

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Originally Posted by Falcadore

There was questionable legality of the Ovlovs at the time. Hope nobody looks too closely now. Especially with a ruler.

Interesting to see the road cars side by side... not conclusive evidence all these years later, but enough to start some interesting chat.

The ex-Hazelton car, now in the hands of Richard Prince, maybe close to the 'right' spec, but its painfully slow at most circuits.

Robert Bailey · 3 Feb 2007, 11:45 (Ref:1832497)

no.those cars are latter built as following.Goss car #006 owned by a.lloyd in the UK. Walkinshaw car#007 owned by Jaguar trust.and 005 Dickson car owned by Pearson in the UK reference current Jaguar magazine edition #129.

ovlov · 3 Feb 2007, 18:34 (Ref:1832687)

GTRMagic - I agree it is painfully slow. K-Jetronic system is only providing 300cc/min per injector. It needs 450cc/min to make its HP potential. We're working on it. Hope to have it running to its potential by Phillip Is in March.
Richard Prince

**GTRMagic** · 3 Feb 2007, 20:53 (Ref:1832805)

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Originally Posted by ovlov

GTRMagic - I agree it is painfully slow. K-Jetronic system is only providing 300cc/min per injector. It needs 450cc/min to make its HP potential. We're working on it. Hope to have it running to its potential by Phillip Is in March.
Richard Prince

Is this something simple like an ECU change can fix? The 740T you ran/run appears a LOT quicker

Welcome to the forum too Richard

David Towe · 3 Feb 2007, 21:36 (Ref:1832834)

Keep at it Richard. I had problems with finding someone who could reliably tune the M3 with the original Motronic in the past which resulted in a meltdown I couldn't afford. The only reliable way to fix it was to spend too much money and put on a Motec, problem solved and of course I download the data and can see if I'm about to have a problem before it costs too much money. Is this a possible fix for you too?
36 entries for the Island, I'm looking forward to it, see you there

ovlov · 4 Feb 2007, 02:11 (Ref:1832939)

After discussion with CAMS Historic officials, I have a Motec M4 controlling a boost control valve on the hose from the inlet manifold to the K-Jet CPR - this manages A/F ratio as boost comes on by lowering the control pressure, allowing more travel of the "flapper" in the K-Jet. All we need now is more fuel flow through the injector head, lines and mechanical injectors themselves. My K-Jet specialist believes he can get this by opening the width of the slots in the K-Jet metering valve.
I contacted the guys who restored the original Petch/Francevic car in Germany (Tuff240 website referenced earlier in this post) and they said they had the same drama - seems there's no-one left who knows exactly how they got 355HP out of the factory cars in the mid-80's.

Senna05 · 4 Feb 2007, 02:17 (Ref:1832943)

ovlov - would it be worth trying to contact John Bowe about it?

**GTRMagic** · 4 Feb 2007, 02:34 (Ref:1832947)

I thought Randall Edgell in NZ rebuilt the Volvo engines for MPM way back then? Mr Edgell is still around...

Group'C' · 4 Feb 2007, 03:00 (Ref:1832952)

.
Les Small was involved in the Petch volvo when it ran in the ATCC. he is still around and works with one of the V8 teams still ? Is it PMM ? GTR may be able to answer this

William Dale Jr · 4 Feb 2007, 04:22 (Ref:1832966)

Are you sure you don't mean John Sheppard? Les was still building Commodores for Gricey at the time.

racer69 · 4 Feb 2007, 06:57 (Ref:1833017)

At the very least wasn't the Petch Volvo based at Roadways during its 1985 ATCC campaign? Could Small have had some input, as the first appearance of a Small-prepared Commodore that year wasn't until the 1985 Castrol 500 (#6 for Grice & Warren Cullen).

Wayne Eckersley was involved as well from memory in sorting out the car in 1985.

Group'C' · 4 Feb 2007, 09:29 (Ref:1833091)

Thanks Racer69 I have a pic some where of 'Small' at Symmons Plains working on the car

Carter-Nelson · 14 Feb 2007, 02:11 (Ref:1840872)

Looks like Philip Island Historics will have 33 Group A/C cars on the grid with another 10 on display.
One of the largest gatherings of cars with the largest variety of makes and models....

Get to the track, talk to the drivers and check out the Greatest categorys in historic racing today!

Nev (Carter Nelson) Butler.

Carter-Nelson · 14 Feb 2007, 02:17 (Ref:1840875)

Can anyone help me getting a Getrag 262 or 265 gearbox for the Lawrie Nelson Mustang. I don't care if its Got the holinger internals or not, I would like to get the car back on the track for later this year....
Carter-Nelson

David Towe · 14 Feb 2007, 07:58 (Ref:1840974)

I've been told of Albins Engineering in rural Vic as a supplier of Getrag parts, can they help?
I just had a good Getrag made out of two bad ones in order to hopefully have a trouble free time at the Island in a few weeks, see you then.

Carter-Nelson · 14 Feb 2007, 23:01 (Ref:1841738)

Dave,
Thanks, I'm after a complete GBox if possible. I've spoken with Albins and they will help with gears etc.
It good to hear you will be at PI, I'm bringing the Carter Falcon but am down on horsepower for the weekend....still hope to go well.

See ya there,
Nev.

David Towe · 15 Feb 2007, 11:44 (Ref:1842058)

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Originally Posted by Carter-Nelson

Dave,
I'm bringing the Carter Falcon but am down on horsepower for the weekend....still hope to go well.

.

I'm truly saddened to hear that (tongue firmly in cheek) see you there.

Do you know if Albins can do synchro rings?

racerVK · 15 Feb 2007, 12:52 (Ref:1842106)

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Originally Posted by racer69

At the very least wasn't the Petch Volvo based at Roadways during its 1985 ATCC campaign? Could Small have had some input, as the first appearance of a Small-prepared Commodore that year wasn't until the 1985 Castrol 500 (#6 for Grice & Warren Cullen).

Wayne Eckersley was involved as well from memory in sorting out the car in 1985.

I am sure the first Vk group a roadways car ran at Amaroo at the AEC round 1. It was the Bowkett/Wilkinson {sleepyhead ] car.

Carter-Nelson · 18 Feb 2007, 22:36 (Ref:1844862)

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Originally Posted by David Towe

I'm truly saddened to hear that (tongue firmly in cheek) see you there.

Do you know if Albins can do synchro rings?

Dave,
lets talk at PI about syncros, I might have some information after we test the Mustang Getrag.....hush hush...

Nev.

vxfan · 19 Feb 2007, 00:14 (Ref:1845092)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carter-Nelson

Looks like Philip Island Historics will have 33 Group A/C cars on the grid with another 10 on display.
One of the largest gatherings of cars with the largest variety of makes and models....

Get to the track, talk to the drivers and check out the Greatest categorys in historic racing today!

Nev (Carter Nelson) Butler.

Yeah,I'll be heading down there on the Sunday,looking forward to this.Heaps of old touring cars and F1's - should be fantastic.
I've heard there will be a whole heap of F5000's too.
Cheers,
Tony.

Carter-Nelson · 19 Feb 2007, 04:28 (Ref:1845161)

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Originally Posted by vxfan

Yeah,I'll be heading down there on the Sunday,looking forward to this.Heaps of old touring cars and F1's - should be fantastic.
I've heard there will be a whole heap of F5000's too.
Cheers,
Tony.

Tony,
Really pleased to hear you are comming to the Island. I spoke with the VHRR President last weekend and we have 500+ entries!!!! A huge field of cars from the 20th centry of motorsport.
There are a F5000's, a maximum field of Group S, plenty of M,N,O,P,Q, and R with regulatity, Group N and of course the fantastic Group A and C's!

You cannot get better value for money than a Historic racing weekend

Hope you enjoy.

Nev.

vxfan · 20 Feb 2007, 00:49 (Ref:1845966)

Thanks Nev,I'm really looking forward to it mate.

Cheers,
Tony.

David Towe · 20 Feb 2007, 11:53 (Ref:1846340)

To add to the atmosphere a couple of the teams have made replica team shirts from the era their car was running. It just adds that little more to the event I think.

Alex E · 7 Mar 2007, 19:08 (Ref:1860830)

Going back to the BMW 320`s, ex Busby, ex Gardner JPS etc... I brought one of the car`s ( Ch # 16..) back to the UK about 6 or 7 years ago. This is the car that is now in Sweden. With it were some old blue bodywork that was not as wide as normal, presumably for the narrower wheels required in Australia. This car was very original and had not been crashed or cut about in any way, which is suprising when reading the previous posts about various accidents, different engines, etc....most of that must have involved the other car. Jim Busby told me he only raced the car now in Europe once, and normally raced the other later car which had been `tube framed`. Car #16 was previously raced in Europe by BMW, it was the first turbo car that Stuck / Peterson raced in late `77 & early `78. Busby`s other, later , car had been built in mid `78 for Peterson to race in Europe but after testing it once he was killed at Monza. I understand that the `later` car is now back in the USA but has lost it`s chassis number when it was modified.
Alex

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