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25 Oct 2013, 22:05 (Ref:3323070)
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Fines...
This fine is just *draconian* in my mind..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24675949 I know the rules are the rules, but come on... It's just one of the many things that need fixing.. |
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25 Oct 2013, 23:41 (Ref:3323109)
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Drivers can receive reprimands that lead to grid drops or ultimately a race Ban, but what can you do to a team ...
Fine them a few grand at a time or take constructors points off them (assuming they have any) that could cost them Millions. Suddenly it doesn't seem quite so draconian |
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26 Oct 2013, 00:02 (Ref:3323118)
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Williams promised to rectify the problem for this race, and they haven't. The simplest solution might have been to revert to an older system. Woe betide Williams if it happens again.
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26 Oct 2013, 00:09 (Ref:3323121)
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26 Oct 2013, 00:10 (Ref:3323122)
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26 Oct 2013, 00:16 (Ref:3323124)
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26 Oct 2013, 00:19 (Ref:3323128)
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these teams try so hard...
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26 Oct 2013, 00:39 (Ref:3323135)
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Yeah they're very trying at times!   Seriously though , a loose wheel is very dangerous, they can get anywhere, and can kill anyone in its path! |
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26 Oct 2013, 00:45 (Ref:3323137)
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True ...
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26 Oct 2013, 01:16 (Ref:3323151)
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26 Oct 2013, 01:37 (Ref:3323157)
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Just a smiley! To go back to the original fine. It does seem a bit harsh, the system at least retained the wheel this time! But I suppose it is a warning shot across the bows to Williams and the rest! |
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26 Oct 2013, 02:13 (Ref:3323161)
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Okay.
It just hit me as a *huge* amount of money.. Its the only reason I started the conversation.. Maybe it's nothing in the overall scheme of wasted... |
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26 Oct 2013, 13:12 (Ref:3323308)
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£60k is a tiny amount of money in F1 terms.
A wheel falling off is lethal, and has been fatal in the not too distant past. A 60k fine for it is a bit of a joke in all honesty. |
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26 Oct 2013, 14:53 (Ref:3323334)
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it's not exactly easy to replace the hub/wheelnut system though is it?
these things aren't off the shelf. even if you just re-spec the metal, it can take longer than the gap between grands prix to get hold of it alone, without machining enough for 2x cars plus spares, finishing, and testing them. then you have to ship them to wherever in the world you are, and smuggle, er, customs clear them. all williams can do is manage the current situation tbh. |
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