F1 Testing - 2008 - Page 3

f1manoz · 22 Jan 2008, 17:19 (Ref:2111344)

Hard to read too much into the testing. Glock coming out top that day though was a bit 'Wow, what's going on there...????'

Knowlesy · 22 Jan 2008, 18:09 (Ref:2111390)

The BMW had some interesting little flow conditioners on the nose today.

Ugly, mind.

brands · 22 Jan 2008, 18:16 (Ref:2111393)

End of day times

Code:

Pos  Driver        Team                      Time      Laps
 1.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)  1:12.182   97 *
 2.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)  1:12.721  100 *
 3.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:12.838   80 *
 4.  Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:13.026  100 *
 5.  de la Rosa    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)  1:13.163  107 *
 6.  Alonso        Renault              (B)  1:13.316  133 *
 7.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota      (B)  1:13.473   89 
 8.  Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:13.627   86 
 9.  Asmer         BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:13.669   44
10.  Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)  1:13.675   73
11.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)  1:13.779   80 *
12.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)  1:13.820   69 *
13.  Coulthard     Red Bull-Renault     (B)  1:13.944   70 *
14.  Glock         Toyota               (B)  1:14.095   76 *
15.  Liuzzi        Force India-Ferrari  (B)  1:15.095   64
16.  Wurz          Honda                (B)  1:15.440   49

* 2008 car

All Timing Unofficial

strider · 22 Jan 2008, 18:29 (Ref:2111398)

Marko Asmer's time was impressive. I think you'll find he's being lined up as BMW's reserve/test driver, so they probably gave him a low fuel run to see what he could do.

If not, they must be wondering why he was quicker than Nick Heidfeld in this year's car.

The new Williams looks to be quick...

Marbot · 22 Jan 2008, 19:10 (Ref:2111413)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

The new Williams looks to be quick...

And the new Toyota looks to be..........

Jarno comes up with a miriad of reasons as to why the Toyota was crap today.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64804

Dutton · 22 Jan 2008, 19:20 (Ref:2111418)

It seems like we are going to see another season of insane reliability.

Marbot · 22 Jan 2008, 19:26 (Ref:2111425)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutton

It seems like we are going to see another season of insane reliability.

On top of which you get to change your first engine failure for free!

It's getting much more difficult for the mid-fielders to grab any points at all now.Perhaps a change in the point system is needed.

ralf fan · 22 Jan 2008, 19:26 (Ref:2111427)

Honda look strong.

Marbot · 22 Jan 2008, 19:30 (Ref:2111432)

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralf fan

Honda look strong.

Well it is the old car.

Dutton · 22 Jan 2008, 19:42 (Ref:2111438)

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyn bott

On top of which you get to change your first engine failure for free!

I have been meaning to ask somewhere: are you allowed to change your engine without penalty the first time even if it does not fail? I'm just thinking in terms of if a team was thinking post-qualy that there was something iffy with the engine, then they may change it for safety and not face the usual penalty.

I assume that this initial freebie does not reset the race-count for the engine? If that were the case, well, it would be the de facto end of the long-life engine formula.

I'm sorry to ask obvious questions, but I must confess to having not looked into the fine detail of this particular issue (I have just assumed how it would work, given I could not envisage any other logical options).

Marbot · 22 Jan 2008, 19:59 (Ref:2111450)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutton

I have been meaning to ask somewhere: are you allowed to change your engine without penalty the first time even if it does not fail?

This is the thing isn't it.

Imagine that you've got all the way to Brazil without an engine failure,but your rivals haven't.So at the end of qually what are you going to do?!

madman16 · 23 Jan 2008, 06:55 (Ref:2111754)

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyn bott

And the new Toyota looks to be..........

Jarno comes up with a miriad of reasons as to why the Toyota was crap today.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64804

Report in Auto Action today suggests that Toyota have the philosiphy of building a car that is comfortable to drive, downside being it will never be fast enough

Marbot · 23 Jan 2008, 08:46 (Ref:2111789)

Quote:

Originally Posted by madman16

Report in Auto Action today suggests that Toyota have the philosiphy of building a car that is comfortable to drive, downside being it will never be fast enough

Yes,I can just imagine some of the messages they get over the radio: 'Fuel mixture five Jarno and aircon on two,aircon on two Jarno...thankyou!'

madman16 · 23 Jan 2008, 09:16 (Ref:2111810)

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyn bott

Yes,I can just imagine some of the messages they get over the radio: 'Fuel mixture five Jarno and aircon on two,aircon on two Jarno...thankyou!'

The thing that's not funny is you wouldn't be suprised with Toyota. Report apparently came from a rival engineer......so i don't know

Knowlesy · 23 Jan 2008, 12:06 (Ref:2111899)

Was it Mike Gascoyne?

brands · 23 Jan 2008, 18:06 (Ref:2112138)

Today's times, a second faster than yesterday

Code:

Pos  Driver        Team                       Time     Laps
 1.  Kovalainen    McLaren-Mercedes     (B)   1:11.000   92  *
 2.  Massa         Ferrari              (B)   1:11.662   81  *
 3.  Raikkonen     Ferrari              (B)   1:11.850  108  *
 4.  Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes     (B)   1:12.076  115  *
 5.  Nakajima      Williams-Toyota      (B)   1:12.255   93  
 6.  Alonso        Renault              (B)   1:12.360  111  *
 7.  Rosberg       Williams-Toyota      (B)   1:12.493  117  *
 8.  Webber        Red Bull-Renault     (B)   1:12.594   87  *
 9.  Heidfeld      BMW-Sauber           (B)   1:12.976   51  *
10.  Vettel        Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)   1:13.015   63
11.  Glock         Toyota               (B)   1:13.129   95  *
12.  Kubica        BMW-Sauber           (B)   1:13.230  121 
13.  Bourdais      Toro Rosso-Ferrari   (B)   1:13.307  118
14.  Sutil         Force India-Ferrari  (B)   1:13.409   98
15.  Trulli        Toyota               (B)   1:13.547   96  *
16.  Barrichello   Honda                (B)   1:14.588   36  *
17.  Kogure        Honda                (B)   1:16.954   40

* 2008 car

All Timing Unofficial

Marbot · 23 Jan 2008, 18:20 (Ref:2112142)

BMW are starting to make Honda 'noises'!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/64816

mjstallard · 23 Jan 2008, 19:36 (Ref:2112189)

I've got this hunch that the best of the rest this year is going to be Williams for some reason. My hunch depends a lot on what Red Bull and Honda deliver, but if BMW are "doing a Honda" and if Renault have what is politely described as a "transitional year"...things could be looking up for a Mr. Rosberg

Teretonga · 24 Jan 2008, 03:26 (Ref:2112394)

Martyn Bott

Quote:

Imagine that you've got all the way to Brazil without an engine failure,but your rivals haven't.So at the end of qually what are you going to do?!

Not necessarily....you may not have one until Barcelona or Canada...so when you have position two in qualifying and then the engine of your car and the pole winner lunch themselves pole goes back 10 places cos thats his second failure and you get to start as number one....

rallycrosscraig · 24 Jan 2008, 23:05 (Ref:2112980)

williams looking good again today with Nakajima in the top 5

FPV GTHO · 25 Jan 2008, 00:43 (Ref:2113055)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autosport

Mark Webber continued to put mileage on the new Red Bull Racing RB4 to set the 13th best time, but the team had to end their running early after they found the chassis had a crack in it, which was beyond repair.

That came after Webber said the car's handling felt much improved after they fitted a new cockpit shroud.

D'oh!

Marbot · 25 Jan 2008, 19:37 (Ref:2113577)

Did the car handle better because of the cockpit shroud or because the chassis had a crack in it I wonder.

Stefvh · 1 Feb 2008, 09:55 (Ref:2118182)

Ralf's Girl · 1 Feb 2008, 10:02 (Ref:2118188)

Who designed that thing, and what were they on?

I can't quite get my head around what that's meant to be...

dsg · 1 Feb 2008, 10:15 (Ref:2118201)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefvh

Super

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