Alonso penalised! (merged) - Page 12

Marbot · 24 Sep 2006, 19:55 (Ref:1717819)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremySmith

If one can not push the engine to the limit, then one can not race..

Alonso won't be able to push his engine to the limit next season,because they're (FIA) going to shove a 19,000 rpm limit on it.

Penalised again!

JeremySmith · 24 Sep 2006, 19:59 (Ref:1717827)

Okay then but this is now

...So having to turn his revs up and down just seems bloody silly to me Martyn..Good piece by Sir Jackie BTW..

Marbot · 24 Sep 2006, 20:07 (Ref:1717845)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremySmith

...So having to turn his revs up and down just seems bloody silly to me Martyn..

You'd think that a professional driver would be able to do that with his foot.

JeremySmith · 24 Sep 2006, 20:16 (Ref:1717869)

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyn bott

You'd think that a professional driver would be able to do that with his foot.

Too funny...

deejay · 24 Sep 2006, 23:48 (Ref:1718014)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremySmith

I realise of course it was a new spec engine, it just seems an odd time to introduce the unit when he is trying to win a championship..

Perhaps Renault don't feel they have enough speed with the old engine to take the championship and have been forced into a gamble.

There's also the engine freeze complications.

JeremySmith · 25 Sep 2006, 00:04 (Ref:1718019)

Alonso was so far back in the field that I think he was just trying some extra tricks to get up to the front, and after that VERY silly penalty I don't blame him to be honest..They could be trying to compensate for the mass damper ban, another piece of nonsense at this point in the season and wrong thread. But I am listening dejay

D.R.T. · 25 Sep 2006, 06:34 (Ref:1718109)

Wise words from Jackie Stewart,Patrick Head and Peter Sauber.

2006 hasnt been one those proud years of F1.

Pingguest · 25 Sep 2006, 08:26 (Ref:1718177)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowlesy

Well Alonso will have had to push his engine hard during the race, but the main factor is he was always in a slipstream. You often saw him ducking left or right to let his engine breathe.

This would not have happened for so long, possibly, had he been higher up.

It's hard to say that Alonso's engine exploded partly due the penalty. He had a new engine, which is build to last two whole race weekends. That engine should had last at least the whole Italian race, don't you think?

Knowlesy · 25 Sep 2006, 16:18 (Ref:1719427)

It should have yes. But circumstances did not allow it.

New spec engine + midpack running = smoke and bits of engine flying around.

Still, that is racing.

Inigo Montoya · 25 Sep 2006, 19:31 (Ref:1719623)

Maybe he should have "saved his engine" like Ralphie used to, rather than use it to try to pass people

**Adam43** · 25 Sep 2006, 19:35 (Ref:1719629)

We've not had a good 'saved engine' comment for ages. Thanks

Knowlesy · 25 Sep 2006, 19:37 (Ref:1719634)

Is that was Ralfie was doing last race then?

Marbot · 25 Sep 2006, 19:59 (Ref:1719671)

Quote:

Originally Posted by knowlesy

Is that was Ralfie was doing last race then?

And quite a few before that.

In fact,come to think of it,Ralf was saving his engines before the two race rule came in.

Inigo Montoya · 25 Sep 2006, 20:27 (Ref:1719694)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

We've not had a good 'saved engine' comment for ages. Thanks

Could not resist Adam... The 10 10th history on this subject is just too rich and deep

**Adam43** · 25 Sep 2006, 20:29 (Ref:1719697)

It ought to be in the FAQ really.

Gt_R · 26 Sep 2006, 02:47 (Ref:1719904)

If mid-pack racing is too much for a Renault engine to handle, then i seriously think Red Bull have to re-consider the new deal they struck.

Unless, of course they are certain they will be racing in the front only.

D.R.T. · 26 Sep 2006, 10:46 (Ref:1720189)

The Renault has shown to be a highly reliable vehicle over the last two years, I cant see Red Bull being to worried

Frank_White · 26 Sep 2006, 12:50 (Ref:1720307)

The issue about Alonso having to "stress" his engine because of the penalty and thereby causing it to blow is obviously foolishness; Symonds said so himself:

The team experienced a turbulent weekend in Monza. What impact will it have on this weekend’s race?
PS: It is a completely closed chapter. I think you have to be fatalistic when evaluating these things. The fact is that Fernando’s engine failed, and cost us the points. Had he been leading or in P22, that failure would have happened at the same point of the race. Our focus has been on fixing that problem, and getting on with the job. The events of the weekend were unfortunate, but made no difference to the final result. So we have to draw a line under it, and start again.

http://www.renaultf1.com/en/season/c...ws=tcm:3-51066

Gt_R · 26 Sep 2006, 12:50 (Ref:1720308)

Well, they shouldn't be... but some did insist that it is the mid-field racing than cause Alonso's engine to blow-up.

KevinS · 26 Sep 2006, 14:58 (Ref:1720409)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat Symonds

The fact is that Fernando's engine failed, and cost us the points. Had he been leading or in P22, that failure would have happened at the same point of the race.

http://www.formula1.com/race/news/4995/767.html

EDIT Doh... same article, different site.

Knowlesy · 26 Sep 2006, 16:05 (Ref:1720456)

My apologies Gt_R for speculating on what may have caused Fernando's engine failure.

It won't happen again.

Gt_R · 26 Sep 2006, 17:55 (Ref:1720540)

???

it's all meant with a

Knowlesy · 26 Sep 2006, 17:58 (Ref:1720544)

Same here.

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