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Old 1 Mar 2018, 08:42 (Ref:3804833)   #326
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To build it two weeks earlier would not pose that much of an issue I wouldn't think. Plus side, is having the F1 circus and it's multi million dollar people hanging around for two more weeks in and around the city of Melbourne. That has got to be beneficial for Melbourne's (and the state's) economy I would think.
Not quite sure that would be as beneficial as you put here.

2 more weeks of disruption for the city.
The majority of the multi-million dollar people will still only be there for the race weekend.
Loss of attractiveness for everyone else who wants to visit Melbourne and isn't interested in F1.

There's a reason most temporary installations in cities (not just F1) are kept to the minimal time possible.
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Old 1 Mar 2018, 09:32 (Ref:3804845)   #327
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Not quite sure it will have the effect you think it would have. Have you been to Melbourne, and Albert Park in particular?

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2 more weeks of disruption for the city.
Albert Park is not in the "city" per se. It is 5km from the start of the CBD of Melbourne. It's a park, with a lake, with a road around it. Isolated from the major roads in and out of the "city". The GP is not a major disruption (if it is at all) to the city of Melbourne's business district. A disruption yes, but it's not a major impact.

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The majority of the multi-million dollar people will still only be there for the race weekend.
Yes, but still a fair chunk of the "rich and famous" F1 circus will be in town. The drivers in particular. If the testing was two weeks prior to the GP, maybe the overseas F1 fans would arrive early and stay longer.. perhaps(??)

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Loss of attractiveness for everyone else who wants to visit Melbourne and isn't interested in F1.
Again, see first reply. I'll also add that Albert Park is not really a "major tourist attraction" for someone visiting Melbourne. There are tonnes of other things to see and do in Melbourne than visit Albert Park.

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There's a reason most temporary installations in cities (not just F1) are kept to the minimal time possible.
And again, see previous replies. Enough said on this.
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Old 1 Mar 2018, 10:01 (Ref:3804853)   #328
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Been a long time since we saw F1 cars run in the rain at Barcelona. It may be always cold, but it also seems to always be sunny too
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Old 1 Mar 2018, 10:22 (Ref:3804865)   #329
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. OK I surrender! The fastest thing I’ve driven round there is a ‘79 FF2000, and that managed OK.

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Yes, but still a fair chunk of the "rich and famous" F1 circus will be in town. The drivers in particular. If the testing was two weeks prior to the GP, maybe the overseas F1 fans would arrive early and stay longer.. perhaps(??)
it won’t ever be a thing. again, the teams have duplicate crews at tests - the night shift is more than a bunch of spanners as well. testing means bringing updates, trying stuff and fixing it with duct tape until a modified version works through the system. if it takes a solid 20-24 hours for a member of staff to fly over with those new parts then it makes the process that much messier. anything that would happen in testing would be very hard for them to react to and solve before the grand prix. not only that, you’ve got the second car working through the factory that needs to be built whilst the support mechanics are working the night shift at testing...

and no, as an overseas fan who did the aus gp last year, i wouldn’t go over earlier. your average person has four weeks leave a year from work in europe at least, and you need two of those to visit the grand prix already.
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. OK I surrender! The fastest thing I’ve driven round there is a ‘79 FF2000, and that managed OK.

Agree about the poor standard of construction though....
Cheers, you are at 40mm and quite sift, so should be ok. Modern, super-stiff stuff not so much.
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Old 1 Mar 2018, 20:48 (Ref:3805018)   #332
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Not quite sure it will have the effect you think it would have. Have you been to Melbourne, and Albert Park in particular?

Albert Park is not in the "city" per se. It is 5km from the start of the CBD of Melbourne. It's a park, with a lake, with a road around it. Isolated from the major roads in and out of the "city". The GP is not a major disruption (if it is at all) to the city of Melbourne's business district. A disruption yes, but it's not a major impact.

Yes, but still a fair chunk of the "rich and famous" F1 circus will be in town. The drivers in particular. If the testing was two weeks prior to the GP, maybe the overseas F1 fans would arrive early and stay longer.. perhaps(??)

Again, see first reply. I'll also add that Albert Park is not really a "major tourist attraction" for someone visiting Melbourne. There are tonnes of other things to see and do in Melbourne than visit Albert Park.

And again, see previous replies. Enough said on this.
I'm not entirely sure you've been to the race or the city yourself but that's fine if you haven't.

It's right on the edge of the city, and the traffic is heavily affected by the race -I've been there many times, and am about to move there permanently. When the race is on, the already bumper-to-bumper traffic is worsened. There are lane restrictions, speed restrictions and peak hour is even more of a headache than it currently is. It would be a nightmare.

Albert Park is also hugely popular on a daily basis for cyclists, runners and walkers.

You've also got the pesky "Save Albert Park" hippies lobbying to have the race shut down. Every. Single. Year.

I really like the idea of the test in Melbourne - for selfish reasons as well - but logistically, it will be impossible.
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I'm not entirely sure you've been to the race or the city yourself but that's fine if you haven't.
Only to every Melbourne GP since 1996. Also have friends in and around the city of Melbourne. Have spent a lot of time in Melbourne before, and after the GP. Know the city well.

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I really like the idea of the test in Melbourne - for selfish reasons as well - but logistically, it will be impossible.
Same reasons as me then!
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Thats more than they managed in the whole of last season..
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Interesting that all three Renault teams are a long way adrift at the bottom of the speed traps so it looks like they weren't joking when they said they were going to run detuned for reliability at the first test.
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Interesting that all three Renault teams are a long way adrift at the bottom of the speed traps so it looks like they weren't joking when they said they were going to run detuned for reliability at the first test.
Noticed that too. And the Honda was amongst the fastest. Wonder how ‘turned down’ the Renault is, and how much downforce the TR is lacking.
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Noticed that too. And the Honda was amongst the fastest. Wonder how ‘turned down’ the Renault is, and how much downforce the TR is lacking.
It's all sounding a bit like bop and sandbagging before Le Mans.
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2nd test underway. And you'd never guess which car has caused the first red flag.

Yep, the McLaren. Stopped on the start/finish straight.

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2nd test underway. And you'd never guess which car has caused the first red flag.

Yep, the McLaren. Stopped on the start/finish straight.

it actualy stopped 3 times today and only did 38 laps(setting a time slower than Ericsson in the Sauber)

Renault did 137 laps, Red Bull did 130 laps with the same engine............

1. Vettel Ferrari SF71H 1:20.396 171
2. Bottas Mercedes W09 1:20.596 +0.200 86
3. Verstappen Red Bull Racing RB14 1:20.649 +0.253 130
4. Hamilton Mercedes W09 1:20.808 +0.412 91
5. Gasly Toro Rosso STR13 1:20.973 +0.577 54
6. Magnussen Haas F1 VF-18 1:21.298 +0.902 96
7. Hülkenberg Renault RS18 1:21.432 +1.036 48
8. Sainz jr Renault RS18 1:21.455 +1.059 91
9. Sirotkin Williams FW41 1:21.588 +1.192 42
10. Perez Force India VJM11 1:21.643 +1.247 93
11. Ericsson Sauber C37 1:21.706 +1.310 120
12. Vandoorne McLaren MCL33 1:21.946 +1.550 38
13. Stroll Williams FW41 1:22.937 +2.541 86
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Only silver lining for McLaren is at least there are two other teams putting the miles on the same engine unlike the last three seasons.

Does look like they've got some packaging issues though as it's still cooking the bodywork despite more holes being cut in it.
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Only silver lining for McLaren is at least there are two other teams putting the miles on the same engine unlike the last three seasons.

Does look like they've got some packaging issues though as it's still cooking the bodywork despite more holes being cut in it.

And Toro Rosso seems to have a lot less problems with the Honda
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And Toro Rosso seems to have a lot less problems with the Honda
Torro Rosso were stopped for pretty much the whole afternoon session though.
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Torro Rosso were stopped for pretty much the whole afternoon session though.
they had problems with the brake system
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I just hope this isn't a permanent decline for McLaren, as they just seemed to have lost their way. Whether it's anything to do with the management, as they have never been successful, I'm not going to speculate. I can see them struggling this season, but I hope they turn it round to run at the front more often than not
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First red flag for day 2 of test 2.

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