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Old 15 Feb 2018, 09:48 (Ref:3801507)   #26
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Well if you read the above report BJR have used their own mounting system which makes the above likely to just be scuttlebutt.
You an believe that if you wish.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 09:53 (Ref:3801509)   #27
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You an believe that if you wish.
Well.

1. All the teams including GRM who manufactured said bars have shaken their cars down now, and it seems only BJR had issues.
2. With the teams all "blowing up" about ZB parts, you'd think any issues might be well noted.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 09:59 (Ref:3801510)   #28
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Well.

1. All the teams including GRM who manufactured said bars have shaken their cars down now, and it seems only BJR had issues.
2. With the teams all "blowing up" about ZB parts, you'd think any issues might be well noted.
3. Let me introduce you to Occam's Razor
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As I said you can believe what you like.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:08 (Ref:3801517)   #29
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As I said you can believe what you like.
Definitely, Tekno, GRM, everybody else is in on the conspiracy...

Unless the chemtrails got you too? Or was it the flouride???
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:10 (Ref:3801518)   #30
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Definitely, Tekno, GRM, everybody else is in on the conspiracy...
I guess they must be hey.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:14 (Ref:3801519)   #31
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Well.

1. All the teams including GRM who manufactured said bars have shaken their cars down now, and it seems only BJR had issues.
2. With the teams all "blowing up" about ZB parts, you'd think any issues might be well noted.
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I understood that 888 had issues with their front bars grounding as well, and may have considered a set up change to reduce the impact (literally!)

GRM is also said to have noticed increased grounding of the front splitter over Volvo and last year’s VF.

So it isn’t a surprise BJR had an issue... the bloody big lip on that splitter will likely scoop up road, dirt, other cars and all sorts of stuff.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:16 (Ref:3801520)   #32
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Either way this is a long way from the rumoured "destroyed" splitters.

Also the kind of reason you do a shakedown...
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:25 (Ref:3801524)   #33
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Either way this is a long way from the rumoured "destroyed" splitters.

Also the kind of reason you do a shakedown...
Slight difference in speed between PI and Ipswich/Winton.
You do shake downs to ensure all the systems work and get a head start on understanding the car not fixing someone elses design issues.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:35 (Ref:3801528)   #34
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Either way this is a long way from the rumoured "destroyed" splitters.

Also the kind of reason you do a shakedown...
Depending how hard the splitter hit the ground, they may have broken away from their mountings. Speedcafe & friends don’t seem to ask hard questions, the press release cut n paste the length of their investigatory skills at the moment..
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:38 (Ref:3801530)   #35
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Slight difference in speed between PI and Ipswich/Winton.
You do shake downs to ensure all the systems work and get a head start on understanding the car not fixing someone elses design issues.
She would still be doing a fair old clip if the front lip hits the deck down the straight at Phillip Island... they would lose aero completely, steering goes wandery, who knows where it might end up..

And the perfect reason to shake down, but you dont expect that kind of challenge..
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:48 (Ref:3801534)   #36
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Top speed difference between 250km/h and 286km/hr between QR and PI.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 10:55 (Ref:3801537)   #37
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So the problem with the front bar is the exact reason why SMP needs to be a group shakedown (Supercars can write it up as a "greet and meet" rather than an official test weekend/test day.
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 11:58 (Ref:3801553)   #38
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Turn 1 should be able to duplicate the conditions of PI, so yes
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Old 15 Feb 2018, 18:06 (Ref:3801632)   #39
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I think the moral of the story is that under ideal circumstances Lightning would make all front bars - spilting production, at the moment at least, is a necessary evil. I'm not saying GRM bars are of a lower quality, just that differences in manufacturer will probably do more to hinder than help intial testing.

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Old 16 Feb 2018, 01:07 (Ref:3801711)   #40
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pitlane scuffle between Jono Webb and SVG. needed to be sepearted
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 01:49 (Ref:3801713)   #41
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pitlane scuffle between Jono Webb and SVG. needed to be sepearted
So is bad blood with ex drivers a habit at Tekno?
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So is bad blood with ex drivers a habit at Tekno?
Sounds like Jono is a hothead, they drove together in the 2017 B12hr

Sounds like Webb was the aggressor, made his way to the Red Bull pit and grabbed SVG.
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 01:55 (Ref:3801715)   #43
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What's going on with Webb? He seems to be having a few brain fades lately for sure
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Sounds like Jono is a hothead, they drove together in the 2017 B12hr

Sounds like Webb was the aggressor, made his way to the Red Bull pit and grabbed SVG.
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So the problem with the front bar is the exact reason why SMP needs to be a group shakedown (Supercars can write it up as a "greet and meet" rather than an official test weekend/test day.
Holden Teams Strengthen ZB Splitter Mounts

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One hopes nobody goes off at turn 1 and chews up a front splitter.
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One hopes nobody goes off at turn 1 and chews up a front splitter.
with my ford hat on Im kind of hoping certain cars do.

However they seem to have been sharing bits so i imagine there are enough front spliters around if needed
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 03:01 (Ref:3801729)   #49
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Definitely, Tekno, GRM, everybody else is in on the conspiracy...

Unless the chemtrails got you too? Or was it the flouride???

Must have been a good conspiracy hey
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Old 16 Feb 2018, 03:33 (Ref:3801733)   #50
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McLaughlin crashed at turn 1, a tire blew on his car (and yes it was a 2017-spec).

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