[Official] Rate the race- Singapore Grand Prix

[chillibowl]

Originally Posted by Lazyking

My point was not that I don't enjoy driver excellence but that one team in world class F1 shouldn't be THAT dominant. Motorsports as a whole is known for teams working to be the best at a given track. I just don't think that with all the talent in F1 at moment, all the money that is spent should give us the result we had.

but is that a failure of the sport or a failure of the other teams not doing enough with the resources they have? certainly Ferrari are not at a resource disadvantage so i cant say i feel like RB and SV have an unfair advantage.

but i see your point though and also wish there was more then one or two teams financially capable of competing at the highest level but that again is a failure of the teams to agree on anything.

[chunder]

Abysmal

This is like watching the Williams Honda days, this car and driver have such a gigantic advantage I doubt either of them take much satisfaction from it.

Its garbage pure and simple and I know plenty of people that have literally started doing other things now instead of watching a one man show.


3

[Adam43]

Unless you start fixing the result in a sport there is always the opportunity to dominate. And so there should be.

This is why the FIA does all those other things we like to whinge about. Be careful what you wish for. For me all these rules we don't like, the strict technical regulations, DRS, tyres, are exactly what we deserve.

We don't actually want a sport, because as soon as we get a perfectly normal sporting result, we hate it. We demand 'better'.

Slightly melodramatic, I grant you, but all there is moaning and I want to moan about that.

[Lazyking]

Originally Posted by chillibowl

but is that a failure of the sport or a failure of the other teams not doing enough with the resources they have? certainly Ferrari are not at a resource disadvantage so i cant say i feel like RB and SV have an unfair advantage.

but i see your point though and also wish there was more then one or two teams financially capable of competing at the highest level but that again is a failure of the teams to agree on anything.

I think it might be a little of both. I'm not sure, I'm not intensely following every thing but seems to me Red Bull has found something with the tires to the point where everyone else is conserving and they don't.. Qualifying isn't that much of a disparity so it's got to be something with the tires long term.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by chunder

This is like watching the Williams Honda days, this car and driver have such a gigantic advantage I doubt either of them take much satisfaction from it.

I agree with the first point (although it seems more like the TGF heyday to me) but not the second. I think Horner, Newey and co, and particularly Vettel are enjoying every moment of their huge superiority because, as with Williams, Ferrari and McLaren in the past, the one sure thing is that it will run out eventually. It's just a case of how long the others take to catch up.

[Adam43]

It is, of course, what they've been trying to achieve. If they aren't enjoying it they could always try to be a bit worse so they can gain more satisfaction from it. It's an option.

[Aysedasi]

Not one I feel they'll take up any time soon.....

[andy666]

6 , almost fell asleep a couple of times (too many ales before and after lunch ! ) the last 15 or so laps though had me gripped .

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by andy666

6 , almost fell asleep a couple of times (too many ales before and after lunch ! ) the last 15 or so laps though had me gripped .

You must have had double vision, it was the last 7.5 laps, .

[andy666]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

You must have had double vision, it was the last 7.5 laps, .

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by andy666

Too many ales and too much Megadeth will do that to you, \m/.

[andy666]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Too many ales and too much Megadeth will do that to you, \m/.

No such thing as too much Megadeth !

[Marbot]

Originally Posted by Lazyking

How a guy can win a race by over 30 seconds is pathetic.

1.

You must be new to F1?

Originally Posted by brands

Another non event.
By turn 2 one driver was on it and the rest were conserving tyres.

1

So, some teams need to ask themselves why their cars and their drivers (including Webber) are having to save their tyres.

Not a great race, with only the strategies and a safety car ever likely to cheer it up. But still gave it a 7 because it looks nice.

[Beetle]

Singapore always has great potential to produce riveting racing and, better yet, unique results. But I decided to turn off the TV after the first 15 laps. And then I saw the results -

Another Vettel runaway, this time 30+ seconds over the opposition. Pathetically boring and I don't care to watch the entirety of the race. But the skyscraper/architecture viewing was indeed exceptional, and I'm a fan of the track, so I'll give it a 3. If the race was held at Shanghai Intl. Circuit, I'd give it a 1.

[steve_r]

Originally Posted by Beetle

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Another Vettel runaway, this time 30+ seconds over the opposition. Pathetically boring and I don't care to watch the entirety of the race. But the skyscraper/architecture viewing was indeed exceptional, and I'm a fan of the track, so I'll give it a 3. If the race was held at Shanghai Intl. Circuit, I'd give it a 1.

You do know that there were 21 other cars out there racing, don't you?

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by steve_r

You do know that there were 21 other cars out there racing, don't you?

Watching FOM coverage you wouldn't know.

[Sodemo]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Unless you start fixing the result in a sport there is always the opportunity to dominate. And so there should be.

This is why the FIA does all those other things we like to whinge about. Be careful what you wish for. For me all these rules we don't like, the strict technical regulations, DRS, tyres, are exactly what we deserve.

We don't actually want a sport, because as soon as we get a perfectly normal sporting result, we hate it. We demand 'better'.

Slightly melodramatic, I grant you, but all there is moaning and I want to moan about that.

Whilst much of that is true, people want to see "sport" and an exciting race. The FIA does itself no favours by insisting on having tracks designed by the safety committee. If I recall correctly, one section of the Singapore track was designed specifically to break up the flow of the cars as they didn't want cars side by side into the bridge section, which for me is an ideal place to make an overtake, however the preceding corners make it impossible as the run into the hairpin is so short. That just seems so odd, I mean, why not have a permenant yellow flag there or something? What if it rained or was damp and then all of a sudden there was a load of passing into that corner, would they red flag the race?

Now for the first time in years the FIA actually made a track *IMPROVEMENT* (ive made it bold to highlight it because its such a rarity) by getting rid of that terrible chicane (in actually the same area of track as I was referring to earlier). So at least now it flows a bit better.