2012 Japanese Super GT - Page 45

pach233 · 17 Oct 2012, 21:25 (Ref:3153567)

So Super GT and DTM will suck equally now...cool I guess

juicy sushi · 20 Oct 2012, 17:06 (Ref:3154922)

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Originally Posted by MitchZ06

I meant the 'cookie cutter' and spec aspect of NASCAR which is what they're becoming...

They have been for a while, since 2010 they've all been running 3.4 litre v8s. This is not a dramatic change, if anything, it's an improvement. Bringing the costs down on components which aren't core to the show while potentially increasing the variety of cars is a really good thing.

juicy sushi · 20 Oct 2012, 17:19 (Ref:3154928)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Oh C'mon, not even Formula Nippon too!? Seriously, if they want to be like IndyCar, they should adapt the regs instead of DTM.

What were you expecting? Why on earth would Toyota and Honda develop two separate specs of engine for different domestic racing series, each commanding mult-billion yen budgets?

GT500 in Super GT and Formula Nippon are VERY expensive. Given the state of the global and domestic economy, and the troubles Japanese car companies are facing, on what planet was anything else viable? Racing costs money, and there's not so much to go around at the moment.

F50GTPlus · 21 Oct 2012, 17:46 (Ref:3155487)

Are there still any plans to add hybrids to the engine regulations in 2014... I thought I remember reading that Super GT and Formula Nippon would use 2L DI Turbo Hybrid engines in 2014 and that DTM tubs were already built to possibly include a hybrid system as well

juicy sushi · 21 Oct 2012, 19:42 (Ref:3155531)

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Originally Posted by F50GTPlus

Are there still any plans to add hybrids to the engine regulations in 2014... I thought I remember reading that Super GT and Formula Nippon would use 2L DI Turbo Hybrid engines in 2014 and that DTM tubs were already built to possibly include a hybrid system as well

Given Toyota and Honda are already running hybrids in GT300, I'd be surprised if they didn't have them in the 2014 cars.

tbz · 28 Oct 2012, 04:53 (Ref:3158796)

Last Championship Race "Motegi" starts in few minutes. Stream

TF110 · 28 Oct 2012, 06:50 (Ref:3158838)

Thanks, caught the last 20 laps.

Japanese Samurai · 28 Oct 2012, 14:50 (Ref:3159011)

*Team Aspeed (#66) announces that they finish race activity after this year.
JAF GP will be their last race.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44514

*Yasutsune Chiba (team owner of team TAISAN) declared that they will make two car participation (by Porsche) next year.

*Sunday press conference by GTA
The shakedown test of 2014 regulations cars is scheduled for the middle of 2013.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44500

*Comment by Masahiko Matsumoto (Honda)
We will greatly change the development policy of HSV-010 (side radiator, single exhaust etc?) next year.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44520

TF110 · 28 Oct 2012, 23:48 (Ref:3159261)

So NSX for Honda, GTR for Nissan. But what car for Toyota/Lexus in the future? Maybe a new Lexus coupe?

MagVanisher · 29 Oct 2012, 01:27 (Ref:3159295)

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Originally Posted by TF110

So NSX for Honda, GTR for Nissan. But what car for Toyota/Lexus in the future? Maybe a new Lexus coupe?

I think they might stick to the SC430 again... or maybe they would choose the LF-LC concept car.

Of course, it would be weird if they choose the LFA running in 4-cylinders.

TF110 · 29 Oct 2012, 08:06 (Ref:3159378)

But SC430 doesn't exist. No way they would use that car which has been out of production for 5 years. Maybe Lexus will make an IS-F coupe, which would compete directly with the M3/M4.

rich07 · 29 Oct 2012, 10:12 (Ref:3159429)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

*Team Aspeed (#66) announces that they finish race activity after this year.
JAF GP will be their last race.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44514

Oh thats a shame

Im gonna miss that Aston in GT300, I hope someone else races it.

Koenigsegg · 29 Oct 2012, 10:31 (Ref:3159444)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

*Team Aspeed (#66) announces that they finish race activity after this year.
JAF GP will be their last race.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44514

Stop racing completely? Or only stop racing in SuperGT?

tbz · 29 Oct 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3159448)

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Originally Posted by Koenigsegg

Stop racing completely? Or only stop racing in SuperGT?

Racing completely

Japanese Samurai · 29 Oct 2012, 15:19 (Ref:3159581)

Team Bandoh (#19) announce that Marino Franchitti drives JAF GP instead of Andre Couto.
http://ameblo.jp/bandoh19/entry-11392067409.html

sukispeed · 29 Oct 2012, 23:53 (Ref:3159846)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

*Team Aspeed (#66) announces that they finish race activity after this year.
JAF GP will be their last race.
http://as-web.jp/news/info.php?c_id=2&no=44514

That sucks, they are one of two favorite race teams, They should won this year, their car was one of the fastest this year. Too bad they started at the back and then got a drive through penalty.

rich07 · 30 Oct 2012, 01:11 (Ref:3159883)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Team Bandoh (#19) announce that Marino Franchitti drives JAF GP instead of Andre Couto.
http://ameblo.jp/bandoh19/entry-11392067409.html

Great to see Marino getting some drives after Peugeot fell thru. Hope he does well

Japanese Samurai · 31 Oct 2012, 12:01 (Ref:3160584)

Sports-carracing.net report SGT and DTM regulation unification.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2012...121031special1

*2014 monocoque differs from the present DTM monocoque.
It is because 2014 monocoque corresponds to MR layout.
DTM also use this 2014 monocoque from 2014.

*Common parts are about 50. They are made in Germany.
*Japanese original common parts are about 20. They are manufactured in Japan.

*Six manufacturers share the development costs of common parts.
This burden of expense will be a barrier for a new participant.

DS" · 31 Oct 2012, 12:13 (Ref:3160586)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Sports-carracing.net report SGT and DTM regulation unification.
http://www.sports-carracing.net/2012...121031special1

*2014 monocoque differs from the present DTM monocoque.
It is because 2014 monocoque corresponds to MR layout.
DTM also use this 2014 monocoque from 2014.

*Common parts are about 50. They are made in Germany.
*Japanese original common parts are about 20. They are manufactured in Japan.

*Six manufacturers share the development costs of common parts.
This burden of expense will be a barrier for a new participant.

I wish I could read Japanese, because the article surely sounds interesting. However, a rather bad Google translation ruins it for me.

What I do find interesting, is that the DTM will already switch their monocoques in 2014. Could this mean that all manufacturers could switch to a MR-layout? If so, then we basically have our own version of Grand-AM. Perhaps ISCAR could even consider using the DTM/SGT specs, due to the similarities to their current DPs?

gwyllion · 31 Oct 2012, 12:14 (Ref:3160588)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

*2014 monocoque differs from the present DTM monocoque.
It is because 2014 monocoque corresponds to MR layout.
DTM also use this 2014 monocoque from 2014.

Front mid engine or rear mid engine?

Japanese Samurai · 31 Oct 2012, 12:19 (Ref:3160589)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Front mid engine or rear mid engine?

Rear mid. (only for Honda NSX)

Victor_RO · 31 Oct 2012, 12:26 (Ref:3160594)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

Rear mid. (only for Honda NSX)

What does this actually mean? Is the monocoque designed to accomodate both FR and MR layouts or only MR?

Japanese Samurai · 31 Oct 2012, 12:30 (Ref:3160597)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

What does this actually mean? Is the monocoque designed to accomodate both FR and MR layouts or only MR?

FR and MR OK.

MagVanisher · 31 Oct 2012, 12:59 (Ref:3160603)

Since you mentioned that it's possible for the new NSX (or an Audi R8) GT500 car to compete in either DTM or Super GT (which is okay IMO), then it's a possibility that they might share their rulebook to Grand Am's prototype class.

I imagining myself watching a Corvette or Mustang competing against a GT-R GT500 and a BMW M3 DTM car.

Victor_RO · 31 Oct 2012, 13:12 (Ref:3160609)

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Originally Posted by Japanese Samurai

FR and MR OK.

That was one of the major hanging points of this whole merger idea, good to see it's been overcome.

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