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Michael was moving toward the right when Rubens was still in his slip-stream.
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It's only SuperLeague Formula, not F1, but there was a very serious accident at Brands Hatch today when two cars did make contact at high speed and one driver was seriously injured: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/85805
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Schumacher maybe crap this year but he has not lost any of his ability to be a disgusting race driver. What an idiotic move he pulled today. Gimp.
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And "these guys", though they aim to be, are not inch perfect, though it maybe a nice delusion to live under. If they were, there would be no accidents ever (other than deliberate ones, which AREN'T accidents), none would ever run wide over the kirbs and none would ever clip anothers front wing and every sector time would be the same, lap to lap. It doesn't happen - it's not reality.... |
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And what about at 27 seconds when Schumacher was already moving to the right and the gap on the left was now huge? So in those two seconds (or more like 1.5) you seriously think that Schumacher registered he's coming down the inside, and purposely pushed him towards the wall? I really do not think that is realistic, sorry.
Now i'm not going to get in the exact pausing of second but you can plainly see from there that the 'gap' was going to close. I can't blame Rubens for that as it is a split second decision however I think you can't blame Schumacher for it either. Both were going towards the right at the same time and Rubens ended up going into a gap that was always going to close up. Thats why I see it more as of an incident of equal blame. |
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Because when it comes down to it, with this incident and 99% of other pieces of defending, they are, in fact inch perfect. Fair enough analyze the hyperbole that is 'perfect' if you wish to but it doesn't change the fact that there wasn't a crash, neither driver had to take avoiding action nor have the stewards taken it upon themselves to call Schumacher the god of hell-fire and ban him from Motorsport for 666 years.
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Fair enough. In that case next time a driver is forced on to the grass (or within a foot of a wall at Monaco) whether purposely or not then i'll be claiming that they need their licence taken away from them or a 3-race ban.
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Luckily the Stewards observed Schumacher looking in his mirror and turning in the direction that Rubens chose and that's why he has been penalised. That's all that matters. Had Schui left 1.8 metres (I'm sure he can judge that) between himself and the white line for Rubens then we wouldn't be discussing this.... |
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They should have thrown the book at Schumacher.
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Interesting reading the views on this with people who's view I ordinarily agree with lining up on the other side of this debate to where I sit. For me, the art of racing when you are in Michael's position in a slower car on older tyres is about being mistake free (like Alonso was on Vettel yesterday). Shumacher made the mistake in the last turn onto the main straight (listen and look at the rearward looking camera from his on-board). I don't think it is acceptable to defend by intimidation; sure, take the inside line and make it tough for the other guy to have to outbrake and drive around the outside, but what he did was in my view outright dangerous and totally unacceptable. |
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Another time, that Schumi made this move, was Spa 2000, the lap before Hakkinen passed him and Zonta. Schumi moved across and if memory serves me right, Hakkinens front wing touched his rear wheel. Playing chicken at those speeds is not acceptable, accident or no accident. |
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Im looking forward to the day when Mercedes realise (well they must already realise) and act on the fact that they need a #2 driver who can more adequately exploit the admittedly not top rung car in a manner nearer to Nico's pace, rather than accept the efforts of a driver doing his rather ineffective and pace lacking best.
As for Michael's function maybe being more to act as a PR figurehead, I am sure the Mercedes PR dept would rather the press were writing more positive material than has been published of late regarding his rather insignificant contribution to the team. That is not to decry his pre retirement record of achievment.... the current Schumacher seems to have only the attitude and arrogance of the past one, without much of the ability. |
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Daft or not, Damon could have easily waited until the next straight rather than attempting what was a rather opportunistic move. I can see why he went for it though.
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Full points to Barrichello for having the largest pair of grapefruits on track yesterday...
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I'm so glad MS came back to prove how much of a "champion" he is: ethically pathetic and completely lost in a pack of similarly talented drivers when his car is not the best on the grid with a whole team dedicated to him.
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Thats better, but to be fair to Damon he didnt know that TGC's car was mortally wounded therefore Im not sure he can take any of the blame. Its like blaming the Polish for being invaded in 1939 because they were in the way. |
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