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Old 7 Nov 2015, 18:17 (Ref:3588821)   #26
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Well, um, it was exciting, but that overheating's a major issue and bits of this race looked quite dangerous.
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Old 7 Nov 2015, 20:31 (Ref:3588858)   #27
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Well, I enjoyed it a lot for the entertainment but the fact so many cars suffered from overheating detracted from the sporting contest. Buemi, Prost, Duval & Da Costa all drove well and deserved better I think.

I did think Di Grassi was a deserving winner however. He stayed in touch with Buemi and could have challenged him for the win even if his car hadn't broken.

Punta del Este next. That was a great event last season so hopefully the temperatures will be a bit kinder.
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Old 21 Nov 2015, 20:43 (Ref:3592241)   #28
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The long-rumoured Mexico City race has been announced. It will be run on 12 March around a modified Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez circuit, meaning yet again there will be a modified F1 circuit on the calendar.

And to correct/update a statistic I mentioned, Switzerland and Brazil tie for 1st on the all-time Formula E winners as nations, with Buemi's 4 wins vs 2 wins each for di Grassi and Piquet Jr (who doesn't look a likely bet to add to his tally this season) meaning it is 4 apiece. Sam Bird puts the UK into 3rd with 2 wins, ahead of France, Belgium and Portugal, sharing one win each.
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Old 21 Nov 2015, 21:01 (Ref:3592245)   #29
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I think it's a very interesting layout. Although if cars were more powerful, I'd remove the backstretch Peraltada chicane.

I think that Nascar should try Daytona or other large ovals with one or two chicanes. Same for IndyCar at Indianapolis.
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Old 23 Nov 2015, 18:21 (Ref:3592734)   #30
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I think it will be a great venue, hopefully as well attended as the recent F1 race was. The circuit itself is not all that inspiring (the stadium section will be very slow) but I think they've done a good job with what they've got.
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Old 28 Nov 2015, 00:33 (Ref:3593783)   #31
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Anybody heard of this?

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Old 28 Nov 2015, 03:51 (Ref:3593807)   #32
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Makes sense. Why pay drivers when you don't need to?
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The only way fans will watch driverless cars is if they are armoured. Let the Death Race begin!
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Old 28 Nov 2015, 16:49 (Ref:3593893)   #34
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The current state of technology is scarily good but isn't that just the problem? It'll be a no contact, no crashing, no weaving, no blocking procession. A great advert for the car manufacturers, but no real spectacle for the sports fans. And as Agag admits, that's the whole point.

For anyone who hasn't seen how good some of these driverless cars are, have a look at this: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/a...ar-081312.html

So overall I don't think it does any harm to showcase the technology, but I'm not expecting driverless racing to become the next big thing (famous last words).
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Makes sense. Why pay drivers when you don't need to?
This is intriguing to me for some reason. I think the sky is the
limit as to what kind of show you could put on. As long as they
stay out of the stands when glitches happen at 150 mph, might
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The current state of technology is scarily good but isn't that just the problem? It'll be a no contact, no crashing, no weaving, no blocking procession. A great advert for the car manufacturers, but no real spectacle for the sports fans. And as Agag admits, that's the whole point.

For anyone who hasn't seen how good some of these driverless cars are, have a look at this: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/a...ar-081312.html

So overall I don't think it does any harm to showcase the technology, but I'm not expecting driverless racing to become the next big thing (famous last words).
I think overtaking will be non-existant at first. We have very good self driving road cars which can manage their interactions with other road users and incredible automated racing cars which can almost match human drivers when pushing a car to the limits on an empty track but I'm not convinced they overlap. By which I mean the race track systems probably can't drive a car on the limit while they also have to adjust the line to make a pass on another car, or indeed when being passed or defending, in much the same way that the automated road cars don't and can't drive in the limit.
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Makes sense. Why pay drivers when you don't need to?
Following the piece in Autosport I discussed driverless racing with a Motorsport Management specialist and his immediate reaction was, if you eliminate the driver where will the money come from? Fact is teams don't pay drivers in most racing categories 90 % of the time so the money will have to come from industry sources selling technology or from spectator income.

Fascinating idea but without a human element the only unpredictable bit will be when a computer goes down and needs a re-boot! Yet more processional racing and I can see continued growth in historic racing😉
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I've already talked about this on the General Sportscar Chat thread to greater lengths, and I won't repeat that here again too much, but I LOVE this idea and will definitely watch! Could potentially become my fav thing after Le Mans.

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Following the piece in Autosport I discussed driverless racing with a Motorsport Management specialist and his immediate reaction was, if you eliminate the driver where will the money come from? Fact is teams don't pay drivers in most racing categories 90 % of the time so the money will have to come from industry sources selling technology or from spectator income.

Fascinating idea but without a human element the only unpredictable bit will be when a computer goes down and needs a re-boot! Yet more processional racing and I can see continued growth in historic racing
It won't be predictable, because the AI programmings are not controlled by the series, but by the teams. Their calculations will be individual. It could be extremely close and unpredictable, depending how they get the robotics to work.

Money could be an issue, but only for long as they keep it spec series and not open it to car manufacturers wanting to advertise/showcase automatication (or possibly, ludicrous speeds if such thing was to be allowed). And even in initial spec format there could be some branding things going on, you know Intel vs AMD, or Red Bull vs whatever.

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Yet more processional racing and I can see continued growth in historic racing��
Amen. I would really like to see F1 historics gain some momentum
and get on a regular season schedule. I have seen them do a few
laps during an F1 weekend but they are not really competing. I guess
most of the F1's are held in a museum some where. Be great to
see some 12 cylinder's do an all out 30 minute sprint!
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Ah, I see, so each team will develop the AI for its car and each will therefore be different as teams try to combat the perceived weaknesses of their competitors.

New game, old rules?

I must try to keep up
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Does anyone else think the Hockenheim short course could make a pretty good ePrix venue?
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In the medium term it could be a great venue but not at the current level of performance. The cars would seem a little pedestrian. Of course, if they could fill the whole stadium section it would make for a raucous event but I don't think Formula E crowds are big enough to fill it yet.

I did see rumours of a Norisring round though, in case the Tempelhof Airport event falls through. Has anyone heard more about this?
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I see that Trulli's withdrawn. Shame, I was looking forward to seeing what excuse they'd use this time.
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