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15 Jul 2004, 07:58 (Ref:1037029)
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Kartingdad...I think you are right, FFs didn't break cranks when Hillman Imp type rubber doughnuts were used, I would guess that as they always break at the rear main it's the torque stored in the relatively heavy flywheel thats doing the damage.
The cranks are already steel...what we shoud be talking about is better steel. |
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15 Jul 2004, 08:00 (Ref:1037031)
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Must get down the scrappers quick, and get all those Dastsun 160B cranks before everyone else.
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15 Jul 2004, 13:05 (Ref:1037255)
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Looks like no one likes these glass cranks then,I dont mind bent valves and push rods or the odd lobe off the cam as its not hard to put right but a bad crank can spoil your day...I would vote for a change.
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15 Jul 2004, 13:58 (Ref:1037296)
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I agree. In these days of reliable everything and high costs, it seems a pointless excercise to have a complete power unit destroyed for the want of a one off investment in a steel crank.
How does the advert go...'If only everthing in life was as reliable as a Hewland gearbox... I understand early FF1600's used a VW Beetle box - nthey soon got rid of that didn't they. Go for it boys. There is no actual power gain from having a steel crank, so why not make it optional? |
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15 Jul 2004, 14:13 (Ref:1037308)
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What we need now is a meddler to sort it out for us who wants to do it?
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15 Jul 2004, 14:17 (Ref:1037311)
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well done Blue Nose!!
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15 Jul 2004, 14:24 (Ref:1037318)
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your the man!
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15 Jul 2004, 14:27 (Ref:1037320)
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As of today any FF1600 driver can now use a steel crankshaft....there its done...sh.t Im a meddler now.
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15 Jul 2004, 14:46 (Ref:1037331)
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I've not heard anyone saying that it's a bad idea.
However, Diz must still be at work, so time enough for that. |
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15 Jul 2004, 15:34 (Ref:1037368)
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15 Jul 2004, 15:40 (Ref:1037373)
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The only cranks I deal with are some of you lot on ten tenths. Makes a speedy exit, without even getting his coat [and it is pickling down up here] 
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15 Jul 2004, 16:25 (Ref:1037411)
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Nice earner !!!!
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 As they are plentiful in the States bring someback with you and sell'm (you might make some money instead of spending Put me down for 1 
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15 Jul 2004, 16:49 (Ref:1037433)
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And the only time we get shafted is by the cranks at the BRSCC
Only joking, of course, before any sensitive types kick off! |
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15 Jul 2004, 16:55 (Ref:1037438)
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Ignore Pikey. I have just undone it. Yours Meddler in Chief Just in case somebody actually believes what they read on ten tenths |
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15 Jul 2004, 17:03 (Ref:1037441)
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You mean it's not all true on here???
People mislead each other? People get it wrong? People don't know their facts? Nah. I'm sorry Diz, I can't believe you, you must be lying! |
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15 Jul 2004, 17:48 (Ref:1037487)
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If Ford is a worldwide company, why can they run steel cranks in the States(Iknow this is a fact,as a friend of mine prepares some cars over there)and not here? Is it 1 rule for them & another for us ? Are the regs etched in stone here ? & more flexible across the pond.
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15 Jul 2004, 18:28 (Ref:1037519)
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ford motorsport uk and ford usa are probably seperate entities
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15 Jul 2004, 19:11 (Ref:1037548)
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I am sure that a concerted and well put together case would influence the Ford tech guys who run the regs.
After all, its a hard case to argue against, isn't it, especially as you have the USA precedent. (Thats precedent, not President, who is easy to argue against!) |
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15 Jul 2004, 23:30 (Ref:1037726)
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We need to approach the BRSCC as a group on a united front. They our are representatives and we are their customers. Put a case forward to them and get them to take it to Ford.
Surely they can get one of their Scrutineers to put a case forward as to how and why everyone would benefit from such a change. Mind you, I dare say someone would be out of pocket with that warehouse full of redundant sponge cranks...... |
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16 Jul 2004, 00:38 (Ref:1037751)
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they make good paperweights and door stops
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16 Jul 2004, 03:56 (Ref:1037789)
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Jamie you must scrap at least 1 ton of cranks a week nice little earner.
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31 Dec 2004, 01:02 (Ref:1190263)
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What happened to the steel cranks idea sound like a no brainer to me
It's the valve train that limit the revs in a kent not the crank so the only performance gain wound be if the cranks were lighter. John |
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31 Dec 2004, 13:40 (Ref:1190543)
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I think you have some misinformation regarding the Kent crankshaft used here in the states. It is a cast steel crank not a billet.
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31 Dec 2004, 14:11 (Ref:1190559)
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I have some sympathy for Ford when I read these forums. They don't have any obligation to build any Kent parts, but if there is an demand why doesn't a local engineering company makes the required parts?
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31 Dec 2004, 22:08 (Ref:1190776)
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