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View Poll Results: Does the McLaren MP4-18 really exist?
Yes, I really do believe it exists! Honestly, you may laugh but I do! 20 47.62%
No, Ron has given it to Stodders as a present! 2 4.76%
No, they designed such a 'dog' that they've ditched it! 5 11.90%
No, they have spent all their money on the shiny new motorhome! 15 35.71%
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 16:42 (Ref:641613)   #1
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Does the McLaren MP4-18 really exist?

Here's a thought - does the McLaren MP4-18 really exist or have they been bluffing all the time.

It's all a bit strange, don't you think?

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Old 24 Jun 2003, 16:51 (Ref:641622)   #2
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Very funny.

No it exists, it's just not ready (for TGP?).

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Old 24 Jun 2003, 16:57 (Ref:641630)   #3
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Are you sure?

I mean would you put good money on it being released during 2003/4?
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 17:10 (Ref:641643)   #4
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 18:55 (Ref:641809)   #5
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If it doesn't exist, they've done wonders with computer graphics and holograms taking something round the test tracks! .
Just that it may end up being the 2004 car as well!
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 20:13 (Ref:641889)   #6
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Iam sure we will see it out there racing one day



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Old 24 Jun 2003, 21:02 (Ref:641942)   #7
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 21:16 (Ref:641968)   #8
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There's no hurry for it...the old car is doing better than they imagined I reckon. If it hadn't been I think they would have hurried along the production of the MP4-18.
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Old 24 Jun 2003, 21:32 (Ref:641990)   #9
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Perhaps the current car really IS better than the new one.

Plus it has passed the FIA safety test!

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Old 25 Jun 2003, 07:30 (Ref:642299)   #10
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your poll seemed to have somewhat backfired on you there!
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 07:39 (Ref:642312)   #11
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Personally i think that the MP4/18 is just one of those stories to scare the kids away, like the Bogeyman and the Easter Bunny.

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Old 25 Jun 2003, 09:10 (Ref:642398)   #12
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your poll seemed to have somewhat backfired on you there!
Why is that? It was only a bit of a laugh!

Bit like Lleyton Hewitt's performance at Wimbledon!


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Personally i think that the MP4/18 is just one of those stories to scare the kids away.
maybe it was created to scare Ferrari, get them to bring out their car first.
oh and if the answer is that it MUST exist because you've seen test pictures, they're fakes, it was all done on a Scalextric set.
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 09:42 (Ref:642423)   #14
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It's a great big conspiracy. There is no new McLaren. The whole thing was done using mirrors and special cameras. The problem is that Ron Dennis hasn't told his drivers that there is no new McLaren because if they thought that they had to take on Schumacher in the quick and reliable Ferrari, using the old McLaren for the whole year, they wouldn't have the motivation to do it. It's the promise of the new car that Ron hopes to use to help Kimi overcome Schumi.

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Old 25 Jun 2003, 10:14 (Ref:642460)   #15
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I think this thread belongs to Gravel Trap

P.S. I don't believe you fallks actually voted!
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 11:09 (Ref:642505)   #16
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Stoddart is leasing his newly-aquired Arrows chassis to McLaren, who have re-painted them and are pretending that they have a new car.
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 11:43 (Ref:642530)   #17
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I think this thread belongs to Gravel Trap P.S. I don't believe you fallks actually voted!
Ljakse - whilst being a bit of fun, there is a serious side in my mind - will this thing ever fly this season, or is it going to be one long string of promises about its release.

McLaren seem to be able to get all the other 'bells and whistles' up and running - surely the car is the most important?
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 11:53 (Ref:642543)   #18
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"Once upon a time there was there was a Wizard named Ron who wanted his cars to finish in front of the Red cars. He stayed up very late every night using all of his magic powers to make better canooter valves so his cars would finish in front."

Rubens' and Michael's get very big and they ask "Did it work?" Ross and Jean smiled and said "Sometimes, but not always."

"So the Wizard thought he would cast a spell to make everyone in F1land believe that he had a magical car that was even faster than the one he had so that all the people would be afraid and concerned and waste their spells on potions to improve their canooter valves. So he did! Soon all were talking about the marvelous new car, but one day a wise young man named Hugh of Jarce said: 'but where is this car, this most marvelous of cars?' And poof! The spell was broken, and the car was never heard of again!"

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Old 25 Jun 2003, 12:45 (Ref:642609)   #19
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Mr Jarce, twas time for you to get out of the GT, and spread your funny polls into the motorsport world (Guinness accepted here, too!)
About Macs, well, i guess that sooner or later we'll see a new one: Ron won't go on running Mp4-17 forever!
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 13:25 (Ref:642671)   #20
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I reckon they`ve created a bit of a dog myself, they keep crashing it in testing,I reckon Mclaren will probably say they give it its track debut in Japan!!and then stick it in their museum as a concept car.
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 14:41 (Ref:642727)   #21
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A few $ spent on some weird bodywork bolted to an old model-easy!
Run funny fuel to make it seem like it's faster
GREAT value for money in the psych out stakes!!!!LOL
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Old 25 Jun 2003, 16:21 (Ref:642796)   #22
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Didn't Ron once boast about the number of display cabinets at 'base' showing visitors the McLaren technology that never made it into F1?

Ssshhh! Listen! Can you hear that noise?

Sounds like sawing and drilling?

Do you think a rather large perspex display cabinet is being made?

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oh Mr. JohnSSC tell us another!!

absolutely hillarious stuff!

I personally think its like the US - Russian tank gap, The russians actually built "tanks" out of plywood shells on old cars to make their army look stronger than it was, and look what happened to them.
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Old 26 Jun 2003, 07:43 (Ref:643416)   #24
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I think there was an inflatable tank that blew away in the wind somewhere in the UK recently. The MOD were looking everywhere for it.

Maybe McLaren MP4-18 is a 'blow up' model which is why it has failed the FIA crash tests. It could simply have got a puncture!
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The delays to the MP4/18 are discussed here:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...threadid=40089

I haven't merged this thread into it because of the risk of destroying the flow
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