2017 Australian GT Championship

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

What is it that 'we' understand?

that Tony Quinn went to Supercars to ask about things

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In reality what changes next year if Supercars takes over?

All the AGT rounds were on the Supercars calendar this year. Do they get longer races? More track time?

Or are the "competitors" just looking for the change for the sake of change?

GT Competitors seem to get sick of the series organisers every few years going by the last 20 years, how long before they get sick of Supercars?

Originally Posted by peckstar

Tony Quinn has asked for this from what we understand,

From the original AA story about this potential change, did Quinn only ask for this because he felt he's lost the support of the teams?

[GTRMagic]

And its done.. SuperGT Here we come...

[GTRMagic]

Official Story Here

Competitor involvement in category management
Existing management retained & expanded
Positive responses from works assisted teams

Looks good all round

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should be Super

Do they have to put a "Super" infront of everything they do?

[Mixer]

It's called branding derp

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[peckstar]

there has been a bit of news in the supercar and Gt3 areas of late leading to whatever happenes with the Aust Gt series.

One of them was the Supercars Commission chairman was stepping down, which then leaves a spot in the "merged" entities for...... TQ?

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Mixer

It's called branding derp

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And GT3 racing loses more of its identity as it falls into the background of the Supercars branding exercise. Does anyone find the new name a little clumsy - especially considering a certain Japanese category?

If only CAMS could show some backbone.

Sad day really. Nothing really to get excited about. Maybe Asian GT could see some Australians heading in that direction.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

And GT3 racing loses more of its identity as it falls into the background of the Supercars branding exercise. Does anyone find the new name a little clumsy - especially considering a certain Japanese category?

If only CAMS could show some backbone.

Sad day really. Nothing really to get excited about. Maybe Asian GT could see some Australians heading in that direction.

Aust Gt becomes SuperGt and you complain about Gt3 losing identity. Not sure how that changes. neither is called Gt3

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Sad day really. Nothing really to get excited about. Maybe Asian GT could see some Australians heading in that direction.

I love how you've conveniently ignored the competitor comments in the linked story about about how they are happy about how they will now be represented, instead of a pseudo-dictatorship.

I dare say the scheduling drama this year has been the catalyst for a no-confidence vote of TQ and the eventual change.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Aust Gt becomes SuperGt and you complain about Gt3 losing identity. Not sure how that changes. neither is called Gt3

There's only one SuperGT, its in Japan and has held that name for a number of years now, yeah its got GT3 cars in it but they're only part of the show, a show that Nissan actually wins..

Surely an organisation such as Supercars can come up with something a bit more creative instead of blatantly copying the name off another series? Im betting GTA (the organisation that runs Super GT in Japan) wont be amused to find another series trying to run under their name.

Nothing wrong with Australian GT or AusGT for that matter. Keep it simple.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by rich07

There's only one SuperGT, its in Japan and has held that name for a number of years now, yeah its got GT3 cars in it but they're only part of the show, a show that Nissan actually wins..

Surely an organisation such as Supercars can come up with something a bit more creative instead of blatantly copying the name off another series? Im betting GTA (the organisation that runs Super GT in Japan) wont be amused to find another series trying to run under their name.

Nothing wrong with Australian GT or AusGT for that matter. Keep it simple.

there is no SuperGT in Japan. there is however Super GT, its an important distinction.

Im betting Super Gt in Japan are interested in the promotion of GT3 and as result will have no significant issues

Nothing wrong with SuperGT either. Just a branding exercise

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Mixer

I love how you've conveniently ignored the competitor comments in the linked story about about how they are happy about how they will now be represented, instead of a pseudo-dictatorship.

I dare say the scheduling drama this year has been the catalyst for a no-confidence vote of TQ and the eventual change.

Mixer - look at the competitor comments and who they are coming from - not much variety. MPC, Coffey, McElrea & Tekno (will be interesting to see if they re emerge now).

The ones quoted are the same ones who featured in the Speedcafe PR campaign against the 2017 schedule.

No doubt these select competitors have won out - what am I suggesting is that it isnt all competitors and nor is it for the best

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

No doubt these select competitors have won out - what am I suggesting is that it isnt all competitors and nor is it for the best

Nice shifting of the goal posts. In the absence of any of those competitors speaking or voting their views cannot be tabled.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Mixer - look at the competitor comments and who they are coming from - not much variety. MPC, Coffey, McElrea & Tekno (will be interesting to see if they re emerge now).

The ones quoted are the same ones who featured in the Speedcafe PR campaign against the 2017 schedule.

No doubt these select competitors have won out - what am I suggesting is that it isnt all competitors and nor is it for the best

if you are sure of this, name them and what they have said?

Not sure if you noticed but Gt3 in Australia is on life support at the moment.

something has to change and there is not a better alternative

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It's funny the posters who become "GT experts" the moment Supercars get involved in running the series...

Originally Posted by Mixer

It's called branding derp

"Australian GT" and "GT3" aren't branding already?


Everyone knows the series will be better off with this new ownership though, it is obvious.

Supercars do everything better, just ask them

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Nice shifting of the goal posts. In the absence of any of those competitors speaking or voting their views cannot be tabled.

Which goalposts?

When did the guidelines for tabling information in an online forum become so strict Mixer?

Competitors are speaking - maybe you need to expand your listening skills beyond the Supercars & Speedcafe websites.

Originally Posted by peckstar

Not sure if you noticed but Gt3 in Australia is on life support at the moment.

Please do elaborate here.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by peckstar

if you are sure of this, name them and what they have said?

Not sure if you noticed but Gt3 in Australia is on life support at the moment.

something has to change and there is not a better alternative

Its not as strong as previous years but certainly not on life support, bit of creative licence there..

The worst field we've had all year had 17 GT3 cars, thats stronger then most national championships. There's twice that many cars that could run in Aus GT but due to a number of factors, some of which are outside the organisation's control, they don't turn up.

With the introduction of GT4 I hope we see something similar to British GT where we have a good mix of the two classes ending up in some quite healthy fields that are consistent across the year. I think we'll have some people in GT3 drop down to GT4 next year and some go off to other pastures such as Carrera Cup with the new car but there's still quite a number of people who want the fastest cars on the grid and can afford them.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by rich07

Its not as strong as previous years but certainly not on life support, bit of creative licence there..

The worst field we've had all year had 17 GT3 cars, thats stronger then most national championships. There's twice that many cars that could run in Aus GT but due to a number of factors, some of which are outside the organisation's control, they don't turn up.

With the introduction of GT4 I hope we see something similar to British GT where we have a good mix of the two classes ending up in some quite healthy fields that are consistent across the year. I think we'll have some people in GT3 drop down to GT4 next year and some go off to other pastures such as Carrera Cup with the new car but there's still quite a number of people who want the fastest cars on the grid and can afford them.

If supercars is dying with 26 cars, according to the posters on here, then Gt3 with 17 is on life support.

Something has to change and burying head in the sand is not going to work. The only white knight out there appears to be supercars. either get on board with that or be prepared for gt3's death

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

If supercars is dying with 26 cars, according to the posters on here, then Gt3 with 17 is on life support.

Something has to change and burying head in the sand is not going to work. The only white knight out there appears to be supercars. either get on board with that or be prepared for gt3's death

That is a very interesting alternative to the reality most others are currently involved in

[Mixer]

Amusing considering the previous management was basically ousted by the competitors with a vote of no confidence. Clearly carried by a majority.

The question of reality is a valid question.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Amusing considering the previous management was basically ousted by the competitors with a vote of no confidence. Clearly carried by a majority.

As suggested earlier Mixer - you probably need to look beyond the V8 Supercar & Speedcafe websites for the real picture.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

As suggested earlier Mixer - you probably need to look beyond the V8 Supercar & Speedcafe websites for the real picture.

Quite true

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

As suggested earlier Mixer - you probably need to look beyond the V8 Supercar & Speedcafe websites for the real picture.

You're making the claim, you provide the reference.

Also: refute that Tony Quinn was ousted by these competitors you claim are going to be so unhappy to be part of Supercars?

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Originally Posted by Mixer

Amusing considering the previous management was basically ousted by the competitors with a vote of no confidence.

As were the management before the Quinns, and as were the management before that, and as were the Palmer PROCAR management before that...

How long do we give the Supercars management before the competitors want something else again?