The never ending Toyota return to Le Mans (LMP1) Saga - Page 130

Articus · 3 Jun 2012, 09:48 (Ref:3084338)

but we know theres about 5-7 seconds still to shed from the Audi's and Toyota's. Toyota looking great! Japanese efficiency!

Of note to there Japanese compatriots the HPd looking dissapointing.

FstrthnU · 3 Jun 2012, 09:49 (Ref:3084341)

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Originally Posted by Articus

but we know theres about 5-7 seconds still to shed from the Audi's and Toyota's. Toyota looking great! Japanese efficiency!

Of note to there Japanese compatriots the HPd looking dissapointing.

Well, Strakka got their HPD up to 7th overall which is best of the non-diesel/hybrid cars

Articus · 3 Jun 2012, 09:51 (Ref:3084344)

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Originally Posted by FstrthnU

Well, Strakka got their HPD up to 7th overall which is best of the non-diesel/hybrid cars

I take that back. 3:34 for the strakka. Its ok but im not sure they can go under 3:30.

alexkiller8 · 3 Jun 2012, 09:54 (Ref:3084347)

if i rememeber well during the 2011 test, the #2 ran faster than the pole position of the race. Today the weather isn't hot but not even cold according to the info shown in le mans site... if times will be around 3.30 and not 3.25 for the best cars the situation is a bit strange.
BTW good timelap of nakajima, play at an enhanced version of rfactor helps.

NelisB · 3 Jun 2012, 10:01 (Ref:3084351)

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Originally Posted by Rennen

There's nothing 'silly' about having an accident! It's not a 'Secret'! Yes, he did hit a Car head on breaking his leg! That is a Fact!
In another Bike accident his friend riding in front of him went down and Mark crashed over him fracturing his shoulder! Fact!

I mixed those up. Though the broke is leg in the 2010 season. It was earlier. My fault.

Victor_RO · 3 Jun 2012, 10:01 (Ref:3084352)

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

if i rememeber well during the 2011 test, the #2 ran faster than the pole position of the race.

Fastest lap at the Test Day last year was a 3:27.687. Pole was a 3:25.738, two seconds faster.

**Adam43** · 3 Jun 2012, 11:32 (Ref:3084420)

It is impossible to say, as pointed out a million times before. Assuming no rain conditions look good for a fast lap, but then it depends on what people are testing, who they need in the car and whether they can be bothered.

The car isn't hopeless or ten seconds a lap quicker that is, and will be, all we can read into today.

Great to see it lapping...

Rennen · 3 Jun 2012, 12:05 (Ref:3084434)

Track less green now, Buemi 3.28.2.

**Aysedasi** · 3 Jun 2012, 12:37 (Ref:3084448)

So much reading between the lines goes on at this point every year. We won't see the reality until 13th June. Encouraging though......

**Adam43** · 3 Jun 2012, 13:32 (Ref:3084476)

I also like how it uses electric power in the pits. I presume it also has a starter motor, but it is good to save it.

NelisB · 3 Jun 2012, 14:00 (Ref:3084491)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I also like how it uses electric power in the pits. I presume it also has a starter motor, but it is good to save it.

They should be able to do without the startermotor.

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 14:20 (Ref:3084500)

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsmay12.html highlights a detail change on the rear wing gurney.

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 14:24 (Ref:3084504)

Another good closeup of the front suspension:

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 14:32 (Ref:3084511)

I believe that there is an extra cooling hole in the side window of the TS030.

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 14:40 (Ref:3084512)

Toyota is testing different front brake cooling hole sizes:

Also note that on the second picture there is an additional cooling hole left from the windscreen wiper.

nobster · 3 Jun 2012, 15:06 (Ref:3084519)

Really good to see that Toyota are putting in some good lap times.

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 15:08 (Ref:3084520)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

DSC 'sources', which I assume to mean someone within, or close to, Toyota, suggest the car is some 70bhp down on the Audi. If this is true, do they really think they can run ahead of Audi at Le Mans? Most unlikely!

I just had a look at the top speeds recorded during the first test session. The claim that the Toyota would be 70 hp down on Audi is plain ridiculous.

#7 Toyota: 330.1 km/h
#8 Toyota: 328.1 km/h
#3 Audi: 326.1 km/h
#2 Audi: 325.2 km/h
#4 Audi: 324.2 km/h
#1 Audi: 322.3 km/h
#17 Dome: 322.3 km/h
#21 HPD: 320.4 km/h
#22 HPD: 314.9 km/h
#13 Rebellion: 312.2 km/h
#12 Rebellion: 311.3 km/h
#16 Pescarolo 03: 308.6 km/h
#15 Oak Pescarolo: 307.8 km/h

This might be another case of Audi running slightly more downforce. However, the Toyota engine produces decent power and the car has a good low drag aero package.

alexkiller8 · 3 Jun 2012, 15:32 (Ref:3084530)

with the same comparable power output, i was sure that toyota would have a best top speed than audi because of high rev nature of the engine that helps a lot to have a better max speed than a torque shreeder low rev engine, maybe audi didn't run with the maximum low drag bodykit/setting.
Nice to see that the low-drag bodykit of arx-03a works well giving an higher top speed than the lola coupè!
Strangely the old oak pescarolo (that however didn't have holes and fin) was able to reach a much higer top speed than the new one.

kaivo · 3 Jun 2012, 15:35 (Ref:3084534)

How rebellion is so much slower ? :/

**Adam43** · 3 Jun 2012, 15:36 (Ref:3084535)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

This might be another case of Audi running slightly more downforce. However, the Toyota engine produces decent power and the car has a good low drag aero package.

so Audi should win the Porsche Curve challenge. Hurrah!

Creep89 · 3 Jun 2012, 15:38 (Ref:3084536)

Well.. Driving fast through corners is more fun than driving fast on straight line. Go Audi

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 15:42 (Ref:3084540)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

so Audi should win the Porsche Curve challenge. Hurrah!

This morning they did

You can find the Porsche sector times at http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...actice%201.PDF

#3 Audi: 15.784 sec 257.2 km/h
#1 Audi: 16.059 sec 252.8 km/h
#2 Audi: 16.360 sec 248.2 km/h
#4 Audi: 16.466 sec 246.6 km/h
#8 Toyota: 16.722 sec 242.8 km/h
#7 Toyota: 17.023 sec 238.5 km/h

The top speeds can be found at http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...actice%201.PDF

alexkiller8 · 3 Jun 2012, 15:47 (Ref:3084541)

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Originally Posted by kaivo

How rebellion is so much slower ? :/

the lola rebellion top speed of 2011 was 319km/h, they have a new car this year but surely the holes will influence the drag of the car... then think also that is really hard that they will receive some bodywork update for le mans because of lola hard situation.

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Originally Posted by Adam43

so Audi should win the Porsche Curve challenge. Hurrah!

i agree, you can be the fastest on the mulsanne, but the best timelap is done running in the fastest way in porsche sector and other hotpoint like tetre rouge and arnage exit.

alexkiller8 · 3 Jun 2012, 15:49 (Ref:3084542)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

This morning they did

You can find the Porsche sector times at http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...actice%201.PDF

#3 Audi: 15.784 sec 257.2 km/h
#1 Audi: 16.059 sec 252.8 km/h
#2 Audi: 16.360 sec 248.2 km/h
#4 Audi: 16.466 sec 246.6 km/h
#8 Toyota: 16.722 sec 242.8 km/h
#7 Toyota: 17.023 sec 238.5 km/h

The top speeds can be found at http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Res...actice%201.PDF

nice to see that apparently the dome is the fastest petrol lmp1 in the porsche sector!

gwyllion · 3 Jun 2012, 15:49 (Ref:3084543)

Toyota is mimicking Peugeot a lot with their livery and drivers, but they do use a petrol engine

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