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View Poll Results: Do you support the 495 car/driver weight rule?
I want a 495 car/driver weight rule 35 74.47%
No! lose some weight you................ 12 25.53%
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 08:52 (Ref:2064183)   #51
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I'd disagree because I bet most racers are a similar weight, c.75kg. They might disagree on the exact ideal number, but they'd much prefer a sensible limit rather than no limit where they can easilly be at a 15kg disadvantage to the lightest person. Of course, you'll always get a proportion of people disagreeing but in this poll they are significantly in the minority.

I wouldn't bother about the people who don't want the limit imposed - they are all lightweights anyway.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 11:43 (Ref:2064247)   #52
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Im a light weight and if you read my first post you'd see that such a theory is very simplistic and in my case at least, wrong.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 16:08 (Ref:2064426)   #53
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Im a light weight and if you read my first post you'd see that such a theory is very simplistic and in my case at least, wrong.
Steady there old chap, your'e missing my point.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 17:30 (Ref:2064512)   #54
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All I'm saying is that its not as simple as saying that heavy drivers want a combined weight and light drivers want it to remain as is..

I've no problem with a combined weight as I'd rather be on a level par with every other driver.... But if you are gonna implement it it has to be feasible and safe to be able to add in my case 25kg of lead to the car...Also, and most importantly I think it should b across all championships or not at all.. The main reason I'm starting to race ff1600 next year is that I can load up my car and go race anywhere.. If you start changing the weights for different championships you're loosing the biggest appeal of the class, to me at least!
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 17:40 (Ref:2064518)   #55
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Why? How hard is it to remove some ballast off your car?

Like saying all cars must run the same gear ratios.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 17:58 (Ref:2064538)   #56
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Actually quite hard if you have fitted a stainless floor! It gets difficult to strap 20-30kg of lead safely in the car.
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Old 11 Nov 2007, 11:45 (Ref:2064876)   #57
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Especially if you fitted the stainless floor to suit the weight limits of your local championship. And then want to visit a different track/championship. I think Point-5 has a very valid point.
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Old 11 Nov 2007, 19:26 (Ref:2065122)   #58
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You either fit a metal floor and that is obviously a pain in the ass to change for a different track or else you try get 25kgs on lead bolted into the car, which will obviously have an effect on the cars handling balance etc..

If Combe bring in this rule on their own I won't be visiting that particular track.
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 09:25 (Ref:2065450)   #59
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Point-5, assuming you race in Ireland, any chance of raising this issue with your champ organisers?

I've tried to cantact the BRSCC but no responce as yet...

Anyone know if BRSCC are aware of this??
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 13:40 (Ref:2065592)   #60
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Fitting a larger battery can add 5kgs rather than bolting in lead
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 18:31 (Ref:2065831)   #61
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I've only done the WHT so far and won't be out til next season... Not a fully signed up member of any club yet...
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 19:15 (Ref:2065880)   #62
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Why don't the larger drivers go on a bit of a diet? Both my lads are 6' 3" and weigh 11 stone ish.

Surely it would be better for people to lead a healthier lifestyle, be fitter and leaner, which on it's own should make them faster.
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 20:36 (Ref:2065958)   #63
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I think it would be a good point to raise at our AGM later this year, and let it go to the vote of the drivers, would suit me to the ground as i weigh 75/76 kg's.
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Old 13 Nov 2007, 20:05 (Ref:2066792)   #64
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Why don't the larger drivers go on a bit of a diet? Both my lads are 6' 3" and weigh 11 stone ish.

Surely it would be better for people to lead a healthier lifestyle, be fitter and leaner, which on it's own should make them faster.
Thing is, a quick internet search says that the target weight for 5' 10" adult male is 70-75kg. Given that this is a target weight for a healthy person (not to be confused with an average weight of what people are) then I think it's a pretty fair figure to choose, particularly as the 75kg proposed inclusive weight includes all your kit.
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Old 14 Nov 2007, 10:55 (Ref:2067182)   #65
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I'd bet that if whoever has the stock of the mandatory 'plastic' cranks were to be given the exclusive franchise for lumps of lead with a Ford part number then this regulation change would be instant.
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Old 14 Nov 2007, 10:57 (Ref:2067185)   #66
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I'd bet that if whoever has the stock of the mandatory 'plastic' cranks were to be given the exclusive franchise for lumps of lead with a Ford part number then this regulation change would be instant.
Lol how true!!
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Old 14 Nov 2007, 10:58 (Ref:2067186)   #67
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Thing is, a quick internet search says that the target weight for 5' 10" adult male is 70-75kg. Given that this is a target weight for a healthy person (not to be confused with an average weight of what people are) then I think it's a pretty fair figure to choose, particularly as the 75kg proposed inclusive weight includes all your kit.
I would suggest it should be 80kg to keep in line with FF Duratecs.
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