IMSA Race 2017 Mobil 1 SportsCar Grand Prix(IMSA @ Mosport) - July 07-09

[Scorchess]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

It wasn't on the screen when the pass happened. When it came on screen it only took a few seconds for them to notice and talk about it. They can't see everywhere, especially if the TV director is not looking at it.

I mean in general

[gert]

#2, #22 and #55 are gaining time at the leaders

[Articus]

GTLM!! Touring cars.

[Akrapovic]

In general, they are a radio service primarily, rather than TV commentators. Sometimes commenting about what's happening on the screen isn't necessarily the best way of doing things as it doesn't always translate to radio.

Some say I'm a RLM fanboy, but I remember the disaster that was the commentary team during the unification. Claiming the Mazda was the first ever diesel prototype, and that the Daytona 24 was the biggest 24 hour race in the world. It was bloody horrific. I always find it a bit iffy when people criticise RLM, because whilst they are not perfect, they're absolutely light years ahead of every other option.

[Scorchess]

It's one of the few criticisms I have tbh

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

In general, they are a radio service primarily, rather than TV commentators. Sometimes commenting about what's happening on the screen isn't necessarily the best way of doing things as it doesn't always translate to radio.

Some say I'm a RLM fanboy, but I remember the disaster that was the commentary team during the unification. Claiming the Mazda was the first ever diesel prototype, and that the Daytona 24 was the biggest 24 hour race in the world. It was bloody horrific. I always find it a bit iffy when people criticise RLM, because whilst they are not perfect, they're absolutely light years ahead of every other option.

Indeed, and I like the pit stop coverage personally. I've tried to watch a few races with the TV commentary and it is difficult. Not that the announcers see bad, but they are required to say so much pr stuff they can't fully cover the race, and add in the commercials and I'm lost.

[TzeiTzei]

Goikhberg is driving just brilliantly.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by joeb

Indeed, and I like the pit stop coverage personally. I've tried to watch a few races with the TV commentary and it is difficult. Not that the announcers see bad, but they are required to say so much pr stuff they can't fully cover the race, and add in the commercials and I'm lost.

My first experience of V8 SuperCars was a race where after lap 1 they went to a "KFC Zinger Replay" of the start. I actually lol'd.

[joeb]

Cue commercial as the leaders pit. Sure glad rlm is covering it!

[gert]

Brilliant drive by Goikhberg today

[Scorchess]

Starting to wonder how much of a 'factory effort' this Mazda team really is.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Starting to wonder how much of a 'factory effort' this Mazda team really is.

What do you mean?

[TzeiTzei]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Starting to wonder how much of a 'factory effort' this Mazda team really is.

I've been wondering that for years.

[Scorchess]

Originally Posted by joeb

What do you mean?

Well the car looks nice but it's just slow. Is it just the engine?

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Well the car looks nice but it's just slow. Is it just the engine?

It isn't that slow, they have 2 podiums in a row.

[Scorchess]

It is pretty slow for what's supposed to be a factory effort. Hence my question.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

It is pretty slow for what's supposed to be a factory effort. Hence my question.

Both Mazdas have faster race laps than the #5 Caddy, sounds like you just like to poke people and try and get a response.

[Scorchess]

Then why is it not running away with the lead?

I hope someone with a bit more intelligence can answer my question.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Then why is it not running away with the lead?

I hope someone with a bit more intelligence can answer my question.

The 5 car isn't in the lead.

[Scorchess]

[gert]

He's got him! Simpson back to the lead

[TzeiTzei]

Yeah! Go #85!

[Maelochs]

Simpson knows which buttons to push and switches to throw as well, it seems

[chernaudi]

No more a factory effort than Cadillac is, especially with WTR. Mazda is doing things on the cheap compared to Cadillac, combined with the fact that Speedsource has lost their way as a team since the whole Mazda 6 diesel deal.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by Scorchess

Then why is it not running away with the lead?

I hope someone with a bit more intelligence can answer my question.

Because the Mazda doesn't have the shear torque required to pass the traffic like the Caddy can. If you watch the Caddy and ORECA exiting the hairpin, you'll see that the Caddy gets an incredible launch and pulls away from the ORECA. The ORECA then claws it back later in the straight. The Caddy has an immensely torquey engine.

The Mazda does not. It can lap as fast as any car on a clean lap (which is why it does have a fast lap time), but when it runs up against traffic it struggles to pass them as easily. It's particularly bad in the short straights where the Caddy can get through the Mazda can't get up to speed in the short distance. That's the disadvantage of using a small turbo engine rather than the huge beast of a Caddy.

It's also the reason that last year the LMPs were faster over a lap than the DPs, but often lost out in traffic. The DPs had the power to deal with cars easier than the restricted LMPs.