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Old 2 Feb 2004, 19:03 (Ref:860396)   #26
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lazarus mysterie solved ?

www.lazarus.ie

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Managed by John Nolan and Paddy JORDAN

http://www.lazarus.ie/images/john-paddy.jpg

family of Eddie Jordan ? the guy on the right sure looks a lot like him

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 19:07 (Ref:860401)   #27
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Its the "National" Circuit. There are 3 circuits (well 4 actually) but 3 are used for racing.

There is the National track where the cars turn sharp right just after Maggots and go down what is essentially a straight all the way to Brooklands corner (in the complex). (here is where I believe the photo was taken as there are trees here)

Then there is the International track which again turns left near Maggots just before Beckets, which takes the cars down to the Abbey chicane, except its a hairpin which uses the pre-94 part of the Abbey corner.

And of course there is the full Grand Prix track.

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 19:09 (Ref:860412)   #28
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http://www.discpro.org/aviation/silverstone.jpg

look for the trees right next to the track....
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 19:29 (Ref:860459)   #29
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I dont think ITV would carry this strory if the photo is fake:

http://www.itv-f1.com/news/news_story/19653

Thumbs up Jos ! (or any other Dutchie)

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I see no Muermans on the car...Does this mean no Jos...Or is this banner on the rear spoiler?
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dictionary.com defines Lazarus as:

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n 1: the person who Jesus raised from the dead after four days in the tomb; this miracle caused the enemies of Jesus to begin the plan to put him to death


So without ruining the cultural sensitivities here, is Lazarus a play on words, like the phoenix rising from the ashes? Something which the world thought was dead somehow comes alive again....
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 19:50 (Ref:860506)   #32
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Re: First pic of Jordan - Ford EJ14

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http://www.itv-f1.com/news/news_story/19653

There it is, with prominently featuring the Trust-logo.
According to a dutch F1-site, Jordan were running without the Trust logo in the afternoon.
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dictionary.com defines Lazarus as:

lazarus
n 1: the person who Jesus raised from the dead after four days in the tomb; this miracle caused the enemies of Jesus to begin the plan to put him to death


So without ruining the cultural sensitivities here, is Lazarus a play on words, like the phoenix rising from the ashes? Something which the world thought was dead somehow comes alive again....
Maybe it somehow points to Jos, rising from the dead

"being lazarus" in Dutch is also an expression for being totally drunk
Maybe that points to the founders of this IRISH company

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Maybe it somehow points to Jos, rising from the dead
That went also thru my mind.
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 20:15 (Ref:860558)   #35
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Its the "National" Circuit. There are 3 circuits (well 4 actually) but 3 are used for racing.

There is the National track where the cars turn sharp right just after Maggots and go down what is essentially a straight all the way to Brooklands corner (in the complex). (here is where I believe the photo was taken as there are trees here)

Then there is the International track which again turns left near Maggots just before Beckets, which takes the cars down to the Abbey chicane, except its a hairpin which uses the pre-94 part of the Abbey corner.

And of course there is the full Grand Prix track.
I've raced on the National track and don't remember any trees. Although looking at NiceGuyEddie's great picture I see there are some on the outside just after Maggots and on the outside just after the exit of Copse. However on the picture the car is moving right to left. Which means that the picture must be from the outside of the circuit.

So maybe it was the International circuit? Perhaps the same set of trees just after Maggots, but now on the inside. Judging by the gravel the best candidates are these, with the photographer just in front of the H24 on the NGE's picture. http://www.discpro.org/aviation/silverstone.jpg

Another alternative is the South circuit, but I don't think it can be this http://www.racingcircuits.net/United...toneSouth.html It uses the same bit of track in front of those trees, but (I think) runs the other way down that piece of track. I don't think the South circuit runs car races.

To continue this aside there are lots of different circuits at Silvertone that are used for racing.

There are the three that Monster mentioned. However the long GP circuit has a couple of other varients. One a historic GP circuit (old Abbey and different Club - old cars don't like using hteir brakes!) and another for the bike. The International circuit also has an added chicane for the bikes. There is also the Stowe circuit http://www.racingcircuits.net/UnitedKingdom/index.html which runs car races. The Stowe circuit is inside the South circuit and doesn't use any of the GP track. There is also a Roger Clark Rallysprint Track! Phew!

Most of the layouts are outlines on the excellent http://www.racingcircuits.net website.

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 20:40 (Ref:860596)   #36
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Maybe a teaser for Peridon(this is what you could get??)
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 20:59 (Ref:860630)   #37
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Whats with the side pods.Looks strange but the black paintwork hides a lot of detail.Will wait for more pics before I say anymore.

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 21:09 (Ref:860650)   #38
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Maybe they put Trust on the sidepods, when they thought the deal was done, and just hadn't removed them yet?

Well, we shall know shortly either way.
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Yes, the official (and low-key) launch is Wednesday. They will also do a little more testing then too.

What chance of announcing the second driver too?
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 21:32 (Ref:860682)   #40
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Well, Heidfeld was announced without much fuss...
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OK:

It is Jos!
2-02-2004

It looks as though there has been a major change of heart and that Jos Verstappen and his sponsors have finally agreed a deal with Jordan.
Although neither Verstappen nor Jordan have made any further comments since last week's announcement that talks between the various parties had broken down, it appears that a deal has been done and the Dutchman will partner Nick Heidfeld this season.

The EJ14 had its maiden run at Silverstone today, ahead of its low-key unveiling on Wednesday. The car was running with prominent 'Trust' logos. Trust is one of the Dutch racer's main sponsors.

Although there is no official confirmation, it would appear that Verstappen has signed on the dotted line for the Irish team.

When contacted by pitpass, Jordan refused to confirm or deny that Verstappen had signed, but did confirm that the EJ14 ran with 'Trust' logos today.

source: Pitpass.com


and especialy for Eddie(Peridon says: No Jos, no Trust, but only in Dutch)

http://www.f1news.nl/index.php?id=2238
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Pitpass is very slow at the moment. Its not really anymore than the ITV site said is it?
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If they have signed with Trust & Jos, they better improve the paintscheme. Right now the car looks like last year's but with a few stickers!
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I could only see Jos or another dutch driver in the car once eddie had confermed Nick. This is great new but will hold my celebrations till tomorrow....... This is like a "days of our lives"....Interesting at first but now i just cannot wait for it to end..

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It look's like a little shamrock beside the Lazarus, so maybe the Merrion Capital consortium from Ireland is going into branding. Re-branded energy drink perhaps?
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Old 3 Feb 2004, 00:41 (Ref:860869)   #46
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What is pitpass saying about Verstappen?

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Regarding the picture is it just low quality? The faded bits look fake but if it is a low resolution that would have the same effect :-S Not that it truely matters also looking at the reflection it is not possible to tell. Still glad to see sponsers on the car and maybe they will actually be able to race properly this year!
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It look's like a little shamrock beside the Lazarus, so maybe the Merrion Capital consortium from Ireland is going into branding. Re-branded energy drink perhaps?
Good idea. "Lazarus" typography seems to be similar to Jordan´s current iso-logotype (look the logo at http://www.f1jordan.com), and near the Lazarus script is a green Irish leave.
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I heard that eddie jordan is selling 'space' on his jordans in terms of 'square inches'... Considering the number of sponsors that I see on the 2004 jordan, I bet the price has gone down from 2003.

The car looks like an unsuccessful imitation of F 2003 GA. I hope it gets some points during the season.
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Hope it works out of the box, there is no money for testing
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